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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by exabrial »

ogre_codes wrote: post #939
exabrial wrote: post #932

What's crazy is you can go get tampons jammed in your ears, have an audiologist fill them with silicon goop, send said silicon off to a high end company, and they'll mail you back the finest of IEMs your ears will ever hear for less than this. They're so comfortable and natural feeling you'll forget they're in... All for less than $400 all in. Pro tip, if you're a Costco member the impressions are already paid for in…

> All for less than $400 all in. I love the endless comparisons to products which don't actually compete with these or even the AirPods. If you are looking at AirPods Max, your tampon headphones aren't remotely in the running for no other reason than they are wired. That's without even looking at the other features of the headset. Good bluetooth headphones finally have completely destroyed my willingness to wrestle w…

Just curious, have you ever had IEMs made?

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by exabrial »

syntaxing wrote: post #938
exabrial wrote: post #932

What's crazy is you can go get tampons jammed in your ears, have an audiologist fill them with silicon goop, send said silicon off to a high end company, and they'll mail you back the finest of IEMs your ears will ever hear for less than this. They're so comfortable and natural feeling you'll forget they're in... All for less than $400 all in. Pro tip, if you're a Costco member the impressions are already paid for in…

Second to the request, do you have a link to that Costco deal?

I just walked in the store with a friend's membership and told the nice lady what I wanted to do. She happily obliged.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by nojito »

doodpants wrote: post #636
blantonl wrote: post #308

For all the complaining about the pricing here, just set a reminder to yourself for 1 year later, when the pandemic has waned and some workplaces begin to return to normal. Then take a visual survey of how many people are wearing these in those hip open office development workspaces. You'll see the pricing didn't matter at all. You'll probably be wearing a pair yourself when you do that visual survey.

If you think of them as being just over half the price of a monitor stand [0], they're actually quite a bargain! ;-) [0] https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MWUG2LL/A/pro-stand

That stand is easily the best stand on the market. I can never justify buying one, but I get jealous of all my coworkers who have them on their desks.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

wonnage wrote: post #908
fbelzile wrote: post #741

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> I'm happy to pay $500 for something that works Sure, if by "works" you mean "only works with other Apple products." The cost isn't just $500, it's also the opportunity cost of going with any other competing (and possibly better) product in the future. Apple's pricing is high, but is even higher if you account for the hidden hand of future buying power you give them. It's a brilliant business strategy as it limits y…

Many flagship Android phones followed Apple's lead and killed the headphone jack, so there's a lot of old headphones that no longer "just work". Furthermore, Bluetooth sucks all around. It's 2020 and you still can't transmit voice without falling back to SCO and having everything sound like a tin can. SBC is barely passable for music, and has hundreds of ms of latency. So companies have already hacked their own vario…

I already don't need a new phone, but the further lack of a headphone jack dis-incentivizes me from considering further. If the choices are accepting headphones I need to charge to use and being a stick in the mud, I'm going to do the latter. I'll keep my old iPhone until it no longer functions. Consequently, Apple is getting less lifetime revenue from me. But I'm not Apple's target consumer: there are others who are far more profitable. An iPhone and a MacBook are all I need, I don't pay for any of their subscription services (Apple Music) etc.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by [deleted] »

jonplackett wrote: post #900
the_arun wrote: post #864

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Headphones market is a crowded place. Apple with this expensive headset may be addressing very small segment of the users. I'll wait for SE model. $500 for headphones doesn't sound good to me :)

And yet they’re already nearly sold out for pre-Xmas delivery...

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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by matwood »

sorum wrote: post #928
acwan93 wrote: post #869

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AirPods, Away bags, and Allbirds.

Add the Patagonia and an oversized Yeti water bottle and you've got yourself the VC starter kit

> Yeti water bottle

As someone who has many coolers, I've never understood the Yeti craze except in certain situations. Yes, they can keep ice ice for a crazy amount of time, but it's rare to need ice stay ice for that long. For a typical boat day, I'd rather have a cooler with larger internal dimensions (and hundreds of dollars cheaper).

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by darkr »

zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

> Compare this to even the least expensive stand alone 5.1 system and it's a very inexpensive alternative.

I've had the same DTS/Dolby Digital 5.1 system for nearly 20 years. It still works flawlessly. I very much doubt that these headphones will be functional in 20 years time.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by css »

johnwalkr wrote: post #919
css wrote: post #243

Looks like they do support wired playback. If you add them to your cart, Apple's website suggests this[0] add-on: > Lightning to 3.5 mm Audio Cable (1.2m) > Connect AirPods Max to your iOS or iPadOS device. Or connect to 3.5mm audio ports in your car, on an airplane, and more. After AppleCare, this optional 3.5mm cable, and tax, it comes out to just over $700 USD. [0]: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MR2C2AM/A/lig…

They don't support the mic over wired connection which is unfortunate, as even apple products are limited to pretty bad mic audio quality over bluetooth. I realized this issue when I replaced a set of wire/bluetooth headphones with a new pair, and noticed the mic quality was way worse, even when wired. It turns out my old ones had a wired connection for the mic, and my new ones always use bluetooth for the mic. After…

Yes, I don't think any wireless headphones on the market get around switching to HSP during phone calls and switching back to A2DP when music/audio resumes.

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Post by exabrial »

rattray wrote: post #936
exabrial wrote: post #932

What's crazy is you can go get tampons jammed in your ears, have an audiologist fill them with silicon goop, send said silicon off to a high end company, and they'll mail you back the finest of IEMs your ears will ever hear for less than this. They're so comfortable and natural feeling you'll forget they're in... All for less than $400 all in. Pro tip, if you're a Costco member the impressions are already paid for in…

What is an IEM? Can you share URLs to some recommended vendors of the products you're talking about?

IEMs are very-high-end personal monitors that are custom molded to your body to fit perfectly in your ear canal. Your ear canals on your left and right side are different sizes and shapes, so you'll have quite a bit of difference between them.

Most importantly, rather than using speakers like headphones, they use a technology called balanced armature drivers which have incredible properties.

An example manufacturer is https://alclair.com I have two sets of theirs, one for master studio tracks, and another for live music that's more geared for guitar and bass playing.

They block out nearly all outside noise, some up to 28db of protection, which is wonderful.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by ogre_codes »

reanimated wrote: post #965
ogre_codes wrote: post #941

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Don't know about the "hip" workplace, but for me anyhow these are at least in concept perfect for the open floorpan office I work in (during non-pandemic times).

And why exactly these are "more perfect" for the open office then Sony's XM4?

I didn't say they were.

We haven't seen any reviews of these so it's impossible to say one way or the other.

I'm a bit put off spending $400 on a pair of headphones, let alone $550. But it's a bit premature to suggest A is better than B when nobody has actually touched A.

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