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Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

#11
The post is almost content-free, we all know apple is secretive.

But that website is a work of art, although it does crawl in chrome on my current-gen mac mini.

If the guy doesn't like apple, I doubt he'd have much trouble finding work elsewhere.

EDIT: re-reading, I see that he has.

Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

#14
The title really should be changed to reflect the actual message (or lack of one). Nowhere in the post does he say that he didn't have a good time working at Apple. Nowhere does he advise not working there (like the title suggests).

From what I infer, anyway, his actual message is that he can't show what he worked on at Apple - not that it's a bad place to work.

Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

#15
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is a warning even necessary? I am fairly certain every company works this way.

Umm.. no they don't Many companies encourage people to talk about their work. See, for example, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Twitter etc. Obviously they have some restrictions - but nothing like Apple.

Not really a representative sample of corporate culture. It's almost three years since my last job, and maybe I can talk about what I did there or get a job in a similar industry as of November.

Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

#17
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is a warning even necessary? I am fairly certain every company works this way.

Umm.. no they don't Many companies encourage people to talk about their work. See, for example, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Twitter etc. Obviously they have some restrictions - but nothing like Apple.

Google certainly doesn't encourage people to talk about their work--it's one of the things that puts me off the thought of working there.

Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

#18

The post is almost content-free, we all know apple is secretive. But that website is a work of art, although it does crawl in chrome on my current-gen mac mini. If the guy doesn't like apple, I doubt he'd have much trouble finding work elsewhere. EDIT: re-reading, I see that he has.

Perhaps he worked on his site when he worked there? I don't know, whenever I see concept work like this I think that it is an impressive hobby, but often I feel that perhaps the efforts could've been spent elsewhere, at least for the reasons you specify. I mean it has great texture, but it works like crap on my Chrome here as well.

Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

#19
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is a warning even necessary? I am fairly certain every company works this way.

Umm.. no they don't Many companies encourage people to talk about their work. See, for example, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Twitter etc. Obviously they have some restrictions - but nothing like Apple.

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Re: Bret Victor on working at Apple.

#20

The title really should be changed to reflect the actual message (or lack of one). Nowhere in the post does he say that he didn't have a good time working at Apple. Nowhere does he advise not working there (like the title suggests). From what I infer, anyway, his actual message is that he can't show what he worked on at Apple - not that it's a bad place to work.

That's what I also thought at first, but the second question of the FAQ on the site lends itself to the interpretation that working at Apple was a "mistake". But yeah, the title is somewhat editorializing...
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