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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by kmonsen »

timwaagh wrote: post #808

I scrolled all the way to find out the one thing im interested in with apple. How much do they take you for this time around. 549 or about 100 times what the Action store charges for headphones (with good sound). Sound is produced using magnets and a coiled up wire. Its the simplest electronic product out there by a large margin. Yet people are jumping at the chance to give apple money. I can only complement Apples m…

They seem to be sold out for the next 6 months, so I guess it is a product people want.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by cosmodisk »

zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

I've read your comment and most of it makes sense. Then I sat for a bit and all I got in my head was: ffs it's $500 for some headphones. To me, this is a poor man's luxury item. It reminds me when the latest and most expensive iPhone came out.Two people bought it: the CEO and the young woman who was on the lowest salary in the company. For one it was pocket change, for the other it was 2-3 weeks earnings.

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Post by nomy99 »

zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

the current airpod pro's don't "just work". On numerous occasions the right/left airpod gets unpaired. The charge level of each piece is independent, which is odd considering both are placed in/out of ear simultaneously. There are even issues with the UI on the iphone to show the charge level. I have to open/close between 2-3 times to be prompted with the screen.

Having said that, as a whole, the airpods do "just work" more than other bluetooth headphones, especially with the case that holds a charge.

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Post by yudlejoza »

zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

Ladies and gentlemen, cue the not-an-apple-fanboy-but astroturf.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by saltminer »

nimih wrote: post #646
mrtksn wrote: post #162

Oh, I find it fascinating how the audio gear industry has taught the consumers on how much money you are supposed to spend to have audio experience at certain level. Pay attention on audiophile arguments, they will talk in terms of money(i.e. 150$ headphones vs 500$ headphones) when talking about audio quality. I always find the audiophile market to be borderline fraud. They sell CD demagnetisers, ceramic cable lifte…

>they will talk in terms of money(i.e. 150$ headphones vs 500$ headphones) when talking about audio quality. Isn't this the same as computer nerds talking about how much they're spending on their graphics card or their motherboard or whatever? I agree with your overall assessment of audiophile nonsense, but higher quality components and manufacturing processes cost money, so there's a limit to how good a $60 pair of…

> Isn't this the same as computer nerds talking about how much they're spending on their graphics card or their motherboard or whatever?

GPUs have measurable performance benefits. Many people tend to buy more expensive parts than they need and there are diminishing returns (justified as "futureproofing"), but at the end of the day you can easily run reproducible benchmarks to determine exactly how much performance you bought.

Audio quality is much more subjective and there's a whole lot of snake oil. You can certainly recognize a higher quality pair of cans to an extent, but price is not necessarily correlated with quality.

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Post by nine_k »

timwaagh wrote: post #808

I scrolled all the way to find out the one thing im interested in with apple. How much do they take you for this time around. 549 or about 100 times what the Action store charges for headphones (with good sound). Sound is produced using magnets and a coiled up wire. Its the simplest electronic product out there by a large margin. Yet people are jumping at the chance to give apple money. I can only complement Apples m…

Coils, magnets, and membranes: $30.

The over-the-head hardware, wire, etc: $40.

Usability, care for minor conveniences, thorough support in the rest of Apple products: $529.

Some other companies tried to emulate this, with limited success. It's not just a problem of designing and executing (which are real large problems), but also a problem of forming a large base of devoted fans, and a reality-distorting field™ to keep them devoted.

The latter cannot be done with smoke and mirrors, only with solid design and engineering, plus the right elitist-but-accessible marketing. This is easier when you are Ferrari or Tissot, but Apple managed to be almost price-competitive, and sell massive amounts.

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Post by pedalpete »

deergomoo wrote: post #697
visarga wrote: post #688

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery issues, etc. Sure they're $500 My AirPods often have bluetooth issues, even when coupled to a MacBook, not just any laptop. They fail at the basic function of making sound.

In my experience AirPods work like magic 99% of the time, but the 1% that they don’t is infuriating . If you have any issues all you can do is the “put them back in the case and hope that kicks them back in line” dance, to mixed effect.

But don't all other bluetooth earphones also work 99% of the time?

Not saying you shouldn't by apple, but I don't see the "it works as well as other earphones that cost 1/10th as much" as a real selling feature.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by bluescrn »

A good pair of analog headphones will last a decade or more if looked after. In fact, I've got a 20yr-old pair of Sennheiser HD580s that still sound decent (thanks to the availability of replacement cables and earpads)

Do people really want to spend this much on something with a non-user-replaceable battery and with no analog input, no way to avoid the limitations of Bluetooth?

Yeah, I get it, it's a fashion accessory not an audio product.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by gnopgnip »

buildbuildbuild wrote: post #410

Calling an English expert. Is “AirPods Max” singular or plural? Help. The AirPods Max is a headphone. AirPods Max are headphones. I saw two AirPods Maxes.

In context they treat Airpods as plural, using "are" over "is". It makes sense because the originals were plural, separate objects.

>I saw two AirPods Maxes

It is a compound noun, the base word gets pluralized, so it would still be Airpods Max. Like the plural of cup of tea is cups of tea, or sergeants major, brothers-in-law, courts martial, passersby. Airpods would be the base word.

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