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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by sagichmal »

danShumway wrote: post #754
na85 wrote: post #747

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I want to put them on and they need to make noise. >I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery issues, etc. >Battery, I need to be able to easily and quickly know what the status is and I need to know that if I plugged them in before I go to bed I'll be good to go all day, the next day and I don't have to think about charging. >Connectivity. When I go to use them I need them to connect and work. No fiddling a…

Yeah, I don't want to get dragged into the whole debate about headphone jacks again, but as long as someone else is saying it... headphones worked ! They always worked. You plugged them in and they reliably made sound, everywhere, with high-quality audio. This comment is surreal. And yes, I get that a lot of people do want to use wireless headphones. I'm not here to argue about that, there are legitimate reasons why…

High quality wired headphones cost $500+, too.

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Post by diehunde »

dahfizz wrote: post #721
low_common wrote: post #717

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a $100 pair of bluetooth Sennheisers that have a battery life that seems to be measured not in hours, but in days. I use them all day every day while working in the office, at home, or coffee shop. Music sounds great and so do movies. Never have to worry about the bluetooth connnection, pairs to my Mac or to my work laptop just fine. And they got to me with Amazon Prime. You do not need to spend $500 if all…

> You do not need to spend $500 if all you need is headphones that do their job. Its amazing to me the number of Apple fanboys in this thread that seem to think that every other pair of headphones out there is completely broken, and nothing will "just work". This has been a solved problem for like a decade.

> This has been a solved problem for like a decade.

Yeah right. I spend hundreds of dollars in headphones when I want to upgrade and it's always the same crappy bluetooth experience. Not saying this will be better but that problem hasn't been solved yet.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by freewilly1040 »

fbelzile wrote: post #741
zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

> I'm happy to pay $500 for something that works Sure, if by "works" you mean "only works with other Apple products." The cost isn't just $500, it's also the opportunity cost of going with any other competing (and possibly better) product in the future. Apple's pricing is high, but is even higher if you account for the hidden hand of future buying power you give them. It's a brilliant business strategy as it limits y…

> Sure, if by "works" you mean "only works with other Apple products."

Well, yeah, that is what people mean when they say this. I'm not seeing anyone here make the case that it's worthwhile if you're don't use other Apple products, or that it's not a giant hassle to switch out of Apple products. They just don't care as much about lock in as you.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by grishka »

perfectstorm wrote: post #405
blantonl wrote: post #308

For all the complaining about the pricing here, just set a reminder to yourself for 1 year later, when the pandemic has waned and some workplaces begin to return to normal. Then take a visual survey of how many people are wearing these in those hip open office development workspaces. You'll see the pricing didn't matter at all. You'll probably be wearing a pair yourself when you do that visual survey.

I have a feeling that this 'allows' Bose and Sony to raise their prices causing everything to normalize around $500 price range. Remember the original pixel (or nexus)? they were priced around $350-$400 and look where they are now ($700).

The pixel 4a is 350$ and it's basically a modernized version of the once very popular nexus 5.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by ck425 »

Am I the only one who still doesn't see what the issue with an old fashioned 3.5mm pair of cabled headphones? I have a quality pair of headphones that works great, that I can easily plug into anything, except nowadays many phones. I still don't get what issue wireless is solving? All this talk of battery life and easily connecting is ridiculous. What's so horrible about a cable?

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by nvarsj »

zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

No, just no. I got so tired of my airpods not connecting randomly, automatically switching to other devices at random times, losing most of their charge after a year, and so on, that I literally just use a pair of wired airpods now and it works great. Oh, except that Apple decided iPads should have USB-C but not iPhones, so now I can't even use my lightning airpods on more than one device.

This Apple worship is the ultimate banality of consumerism. The Airpod max is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen Apple produce. I personally think it will be a big flop, but I guess we'll see.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by TylerE »

ck425 wrote: post #795

Am I the only one who still doesn't see what the issue with an old fashioned 3.5mm pair of cabled headphones? I have a quality pair of headphones that works great, that I can easily plug into anything, except nowadays many phones. I still don't get what issue wireless is solving? All this talk of battery life and easily connecting is ridiculous. What's so horrible about a cable?

The issue is simple. Getting rid of the cable. Cable SUCKS when moving. It's almways getting tangled or trying to pull the phone out of your pocket.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by floatingatoll »

ck425 wrote: post #795

Am I the only one who still doesn't see what the issue with an old fashioned 3.5mm pair of cabled headphones? I have a quality pair of headphones that works great, that I can easily plug into anything, except nowadays many phones. I still don't get what issue wireless is solving? All this talk of battery life and easily connecting is ridiculous. What's so horrible about a cable?

Nothing's wrong with a cable if you're content with it and have a solution that works for you. (There are lots of issues that cables cause for me, but they don't apply to you, as you're content! So it's not necessary to go into them.)

In arm's reach I have three different headphones: One is wired XLR, two is dual wireless and 3.5mm wired, three is wireless only. They have all been used in the past 24 hours.

Meet your needs however you see fit, and once you're happy, be happy! Others will choose differently. They shouldn't pressure you about it, and I certainly don't intend to either.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by jandrewrogers »

jordache wrote: post #666
zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

> With the spatial audio they're actually cheap if you figure I'm done with any Dolby Atmos, 9.1, 7.1, 5.1 etc stand alone setup. I'm watching movies with this. Spatial audio is a replacement of true surround sound to you? it's a gimmicky weird audio effect to me. Zero sense of sound source behind or in front of me.

Humans have limited ability to discriminate between directly in front and directly in back based solely on cues encoded in the audio. It is a well-known ambiguity in how we hear space along that narrow axis. How you arrange the sound sources doesn't matter much. Research has demonstrated that human perception of a sound being "front" or "back" is determined by non-aural sensory cues. Specifically, if you can see a plausible sound source in front of you, you will hear it in front of you. Front-to-back spatial discrimination is based almost entirely on the visual cortex providing a model of the space in which the sound notionally exists.

In practice, humans subconsciously compensate for ambiguous front/back spatial positioning by turning their heads, putting the sound source on an axis where they do have excellent spatial discrimination. For obvious reasons this doesn't work well for headphones. Unless, of course, you have some kind of head tracking built into them.

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