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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by Terrario »

sradman wrote: post #302
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

> $549!? ...I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. In addition to brand trust which other commenters describe, there is multi-device interoperability within the Apple ecosystem. Pairing with multiple devices is non-trivial and multi-device operation is not as seamless with non-AirPods hearables. This is abou…

So you willing purchase products from a company that active shuns support of industry standards and third party integration in order to lock their customers to their proprietary ecosystem and then see this reduction in options as a value?

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Post by gwd »

kristofferR wrote: post #457
gwd wrote: post #237

Actually I'm surprised nobody's asking about a wired headphone jack. Without one, you won't be able to watch movies on planes, which is a pretty significant use case for over-the-ear noise-cancelling headphones. Probably gaming as well -- I don't do a ton of gaming, but StarCraft basically doesn't work over Bluetooth (probably due to buffering requirements).

Bluetooth is enabled while in Airplane mode, so I don't get your point frankly. Gaming latency is true though - when I use Bluetooth headphones on my TV, Game Mode gets automatically disabled.

I was talking about watching movies on the seat-back in-flight entertainment system. I don't those will connect to bluetooth headphones yet -- at least not on the class of seat that I buy. :-)

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by onedr0p »

newsbinator wrote: post #468

My original airpods became impossible to use after about 18 ~ 24 months, since they don't hold a charge for more than 10 minutes of playback. What would be the usable lifetime on these? Can the batteries be replaced?

You don't have to even ask, it's Apple, they aren't going to let you replace jack shit in any of their devices easily.

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Post by com2kid »

> Spatial Audio

This is something I want standardized across headsets so multiple vendors can add support. Imagine spatially aware zoom calls, being able to turn towards or lean it to someone's voice.

I love high quality audio, but I'd pay $550 for a better video conferencing experience.

As an aside, I wonder what the latency is on these? Many BT headsets can have a 200+ms latency, which contributes to how horrible video calls are.

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Post by cjbconnor »

gwd wrote: post #237

Actually I'm surprised nobody's asking about a wired headphone jack. Without one, you won't be able to watch movies on planes, which is a pretty significant use case for over-the-ear noise-cancelling headphones. Probably gaming as well -- I don't do a ton of gaming, but StarCraft basically doesn't work over Bluetooth (probably due to buffering requirements).

There's a $35 lightning to 3.5mm you can buy as an addon

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Post by kipchak »

My understanding is current Airpods don't have the ability to do Activation Lock. Given The Max's pricing I wonder if it would be prudent to add some similar feature. Back when Beats were big they were allegedly a pretty common target of theft.

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eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

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Post by ransom_rs »

ubermonkey wrote: post #429
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

That kind of knee-jerk rejection is just as weird as a knee-jerk promise to buy. All we know right now is that Apple has introduced wireless, ANC, over-ear headphones at a premium price. If I were looking to spend that kind of money on headphones -- which, we should be clear, isn't that hard to do if you're serious about it -- I'd absolutely listen to these. Given Apple's general approach to usability and quality, it…

> This is what I'm talking about. How do you KNOW that $other_headphones sound better? The Apple model isn't even available yet.

I feel this part of the discussion is missing. A lot of people seem to love the HomePod for it's great audio quality at the price, and I have heard similar things for the HomePod Mini. Apple seems to be getting decent at making high quality audio equipment(per $), I feel like the quality of these headphones could be similar to the competition.

Apple for sure has a history of overcharging for certain products (remember, you can get a monitor stand for $1k), but the M1 Macbook Air is probably the best $1,000 computer by a long shot.

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Post by noisem4ker »

enw wrote: post #269
londons_explore wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> bullet-proof pairing, keeping a connection, audio quality That'll be because Apple products use a custom protocol to iPhones, whereas all other brands have to use basic bluetooth, which has crappy sound quality, arbitrary restrictions, poor handling of weak signals, lots of delay, and is hard to pair. Apples walled garden doesn't allow third parties to design or use their own protocols, or use apples protocols, so…

Irregardless of the platform, is there any other brand with better Bluetooth UX than Apple?

"Irregardless" is a nonsensical word.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by neom »

Tomdarkness wrote: post #4

At $549 they better be rather impressive. The same amount of money can buy you some fairly high end conventional headphones.

How are these also not simply high end conventional headphones?
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