I wouldn't be surprised if this means that another project will crop up soon-ish which does what CentOS did before, rebuild RHEL so there is a stable, boring distribution for people who want RHEL without wanting or being able to pay RH.
CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
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#22I wouldn't be surprised if this means that another project will crop up soon-ish which does what CentOS did before, rebuild RHEL so there is a stable, boring distribution for people who want RHEL without wanting or being able to pay RH.
There's already Oracle Linux. (Not and endorsement, not affiliated, just surprised that there seems very little awareness about it.)
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#23Having a more "front runner" distro for RHEL (RedHat Enterprise) is great for RedHat. Since bugs will probably be caught in CentOS and don't end up in RHEL. This front runner role was actually intended for Fedora however Fedora contains way too much experimental changes for anyone to seriously try to run it on servers. I don't want to sound too "tin-foil headed" but I guess now that RedHat has hired the main CentOS d…
> People who use CentOS want a boring Linux distro like RHEL. They just don't want to pay for RHEL subscriptions. There's a lot of people using CentOS indirectly, through CloudLinux. Whatever happens there, a lot of people will be affected.
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#25> CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021 Does this mean that CentOS 8 is EOL come 2021? Weren't maintenance updates meant to go to 2029? What about everybody who built their product on the assumption that there would be a stable CentOS until then?
It used to be this. https://web.archive.org/web/20201101131417/https://wiki.cent...
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#26So, I suppose CentOS is dead. As others have stated, another group will have to step up and create another CentOS, or just switch to Debian Testing.
The new CentOS "Stream" sounds like it will be more like Debian Testing.
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#27What will this mean for Fedora? Doesn’t Fedora already occupy the niche of “Redhat-unstable”?
> CentOS Stream is focused on the next RHEL minor release. This means we are improving and influencing the shipping releases of RHEL. Fedora ELN is a testing area for changes that may occur in the next major release of RHEL.The CentOS Project cannot and does not speak for Fedora
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#28CentOS 8 had been mostly working well for me, barring a few missing packages that were easy to port over myself, and I was really thinking of moving all my boxes to CentOS. I'm glad this news came out before I did; I don't know what I'll use instead, but it definitely won't be CentOS/RHEL.
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#29To be honest, I think this is bs. The CentOS community is huge and RH benefits a lot from the discoveries made by the community. However, doing this will effectively make CentOS as a server OS useless for the most of us. "But Facebook uses it" - well, yes, with thousands of engineers Facebook could run their own distro and still have success if they wanted. Most useless argument ever. Time to move on and find somethi…
Since Facebook actually uses kernels from Fedora Rawhide (necessary for btrfs support I guess), their systems are nowhere near the CentOS you and I would use.
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#30> CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021 Does this mean that CentOS 8 is EOL come 2021? Weren't maintenance updates meant to go to 2029? What about everybody who built their product on the assumption that there would be a stable CentOS until then?
They've just eradicated almost all mentions of CentOS 8 from their main website. So: yes.
> What about everybody who built their product on the assumption that there would be a stable CentOS until then?
They just got what they paid for?