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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by csomar »

My AirPods died recently. At $159 and 2 years of aggressive usage (probably 3-4 hours every average day), I think they paid nicely for their price. That should average for around $0.06/hour. If these have the same lifespan, they should average to $0.2/hour. A bit steep for me to "just buy it" or not consider other brands. But I'll wait for the reviews, it might be a good deal.

Interestingly, I can't find any information on how much the batteries could last. This is basically the lifetime of your AirPods Max since (I guess) you won't be able to change the batteries.

+: also, these doesn't replace the AirPods but complement them. So it's more like $250+550 now.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by Toutouxc »

traceroute66 wrote: post #290

The hilarious thing about this thread is that all the so-called audiophiles on here sneering at Apple's attempts at audio are the same people who will go out an happily waste their money on all the lovely snake-oil that is prevalent in the audio industry. Oxygen free gold-plated cables, special power cables etc. etc. ...

> all the so-called audiophiles on here sneering at Apple's attempts at audio are the same people

Surely not ALL of them.

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Post by bdcravens »

zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

Apple's integration story is what keeps me, and I suspect others, firmly entrenched.

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Post by bussierem »

bitexploder wrote: post #144
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

How do we know they offer better sound? I’ll wait for some reviews. Apple doesn’t enter a product category like this lightly or without careful price setting analysis. This is almost exactly the reaction people had to AirPods when they were announced.

>Apple doesn't enter a product category like this [...] without careful price setting analysis

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MWUG2LL/A/pro-stand

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by bsagdiyev »

eigenvalue wrote: post #283
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

Besides assuming that Apple can’t match those other (very small, likely undercapitalized) audio companies in terms of sounds quality— something I sort of doubt considering that Apple probably spent more in R&D on these than those companies have had in total cumulative revenues combined— it also assumes that it’s all about the sound quality. As someone who just ordered these, I wear noise canceling headphones (current…

When Sennheiser is very small and/or undercapitalized and therefore must know nothing about audio... I really hope you’re either joking or just uninformed.

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Post by jseliger »

cactus2093 wrote: post #299
zcw100 wrote: post #240

I think this is actually a fantastic place for Apple. I'm happy to trash Apple where appropriate and I've got plenty of complaints. I think Apple does it's best when the integration of hardware and software is really important and there is a very low tolerance for, I won't say bugs, but issues. They're headphones. I want to put them on and they need to make noise. I'm not dealing with connectivity issues, battery iss…

Having paid $350 for Bose QC3 headphones 4 years ago, that I use every day but sometimes have to fight with when e.g. my MacBook Pro keeps trying to steal focus even though i shut it and am trying to use the headphones with my phone now, etc. I completely agree. Paying a bit more for something that just works as well as my airpods do, assuming that this delivers, is totally worth it. On top of that, I expect the soun…

You describe me well: I don't use mine every day, but I use them often, and in particular for work calls. If the microphone is great, and the call audio quality too, I'll probably get a pair at some point.

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Post by AndrewStephens »

salimmadjd wrote: post #203

For those of you who follow the industry closely. Is this a prelude to Apple’s VR glasses? > Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in AirPods Max and iPhone or iPad, spatial audio tracks the motion of a user’s head as well as the device, compares the motion data, then remaps the sound field so it stays anchored to the device, even as the user’s head moves.

Ding Ding Ding, we have the correct answer. These headphones are way over-engineered even by Apple standards. There is no reason for headphones to have a gyroscope/accelerator combination except to enable VR or AR audio in conjunction with their existing ARKit.

From my reading of the quoted paragraph, it appears these headphones will play system sounds (alerts, siri, etc) in such a way that they appear to emanate from the paired device - a very neat trick. If the headphones can do that then it is a short jump to making sounds appear to come from ARKit objects moving in real space.

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Post by somehnguy »

I was very interested in upgrading my Sony WH-1000XM3s for a moment until I saw the price.

I love my both my AirPods and XM3, they're completely different headphones with completely different uses cases. They're both fantastic at what they do. There is no way these are $300 better than my XM3s however.

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Post by Throwaway1771 »

runawaybottle wrote: post #154
r0fl wrote: post #122

I know nothing about headphones, nor do I want to invest any time learning about headphones. I’ve had a bunch of Apple products that have never disappointed me in the last 10+ years. I’ll buy these overpriced headphones because an extra $200 for a product I’ll probably use for 5 years will not break my bank account.

Dude, I can promise you for 600 dollars you can buy more amazing headphones. You can probably find two cans for 300 each that will be better. These are Apple Beats.

Which is funny, because I think Apple owns Beats©®™.

Re: AirPods Max

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Post by EdwardCoffin »

mellosouls wrote: post #181
r0fl wrote: post #122

I know nothing about headphones, nor do I want to invest any time learning about headphones. I’ve had a bunch of Apple products that have never disappointed me in the last 10+ years. I’ll buy these overpriced headphones because an extra $200 for a product I’ll probably use for 5 years will not break my bank account.

(paraphrased) "I know nothing about the subject..." "Not gonna learn about other options..." "Apple doesn't disappoint me..." "I'll buy the overpriced stuff because I can afford it..." This Apple-blinkers comment is telling, and refreshingly honest. I'm sure there are other brands with that sort of attachment, but none that exemplify the phenomenon more.

(interpreted)

"I know nothing of OP's set of priorities..."

"Not going to enquire after them, just make blind judgements of them compared to mine..."

"I'll take OP's probably hyperbolic label of overpriced at face value, and criticize them for making a purchase they project to cost them only an extra $3.33/month ..."

This elitist take is telling, though not really refreshing.

I'm sure there are mindsets other than that of anti-Apple zealots, but none that exemplify the phenomenon more.

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