CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by rwky » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
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Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by jsiepkes » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 2:51 PM UTC

Having a more "front runner" distro for RHEL (RedHat Enterprise) is great for RedHat. Since bugs will probably be caught in CentOS and don't end up in RHEL. This front runner role was actually intended for Fedora however Fedora contains way too much experimental changes for anyone to seriously try to run it on servers.

I don't want to sound too "tin-foil headed" but I guess now that RedHat has hired the main CentOS dev(s?) this change comes from RedHat. I can't imagine the CentOS user base wants this direction for the CentOS project (or maybe thats just my lack of imagination...). People who use CentOS want a boring Linux distro like RHEL. They just don't want to pay for RHEL subscriptions.

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by fogihujy » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 2:59 PM UTC

jsiepkes wrote: post #2

Having a more "front runner" distro for RHEL (RedHat Enterprise) is great for RedHat. Since bugs will probably be caught in CentOS and don't end up in RHEL. This front runner role was actually intended for Fedora however Fedora contains way too much experimental changes for anyone to seriously try to run it on servers. I don't want to sound too "tin-foil headed" but I guess now that RedHat has hired the main CentOS d…

> People who use CentOS want a boring Linux distro like RHEL. They just don't want to pay for RHEL subscriptions.

There's a lot of people using CentOS indirectly, through CloudLinux. Whatever happens there, a lot of people will be affected.

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by em500 » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:01 PM UTC

jsiepkes wrote: post #2

Having a more "front runner" distro for RHEL (RedHat Enterprise) is great for RedHat. Since bugs will probably be caught in CentOS and don't end up in RHEL. This front runner role was actually intended for Fedora however Fedora contains way too much experimental changes for anyone to seriously try to run it on servers. I don't want to sound too "tin-foil headed" but I guess now that RedHat has hired the main CentOS d…

If they just want a free (beer) RHEL clone, the best choice might turn out to be ... Oracle Linux. Who would have thought?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by lucasyvas » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:02 PM UTC

Is this meant to make RHEL more attractive than CentOS because now it will be more stable?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by sim-o-lacrum » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:02 PM UTC

I wouldn't be surprised if this means that another project will crop up soon-ish which does what CentOS did before, rebuild RHEL so there is a stable, boring distribution for people who want RHEL without wanting or being able to pay RH.

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by codetrotter » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:05 PM UTC

jsiepkes wrote: post #2

Having a more "front runner" distro for RHEL (RedHat Enterprise) is great for RedHat. Since bugs will probably be caught in CentOS and don't end up in RHEL. This front runner role was actually intended for Fedora however Fedora contains way too much experimental changes for anyone to seriously try to run it on servers. I don't want to sound too "tin-foil headed" but I guess now that RedHat has hired the main CentOS d…

> Having a more "front runner" distro for RHEL (RedHat Enterprise) is great for RedHat. Since bugs will probably be caught in CentOS and don't end up in RHEL.

I thought that Fedora was already serving this role

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by kcb » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:05 PM UTC

So CentOS is no longer relevant for production use. I wonder who stands to benefit. I really don't see it driving more sales to RHEL like the execs probably predict.

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by syshum » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:07 PM UTC

I am not sure how CentOS Stream makes any sense. CentOS stands for Community Enterprise Operating System, how on earth can CentOS Stream be called an Enterprise operating System?

Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream

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Post by messe » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 3:10 PM UTC

> CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021

Does this mean that CentOS 8 is EOL come 2021? Weren't maintenance updates meant to go to 2029? What about everybody who built their product on the assumption that there would be a stable CentOS until then?