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Re: AirPods Max

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Post by ziml77 »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #47

> AirPods Max come with a soft, slim Smart Case that puts AirPods Max in an ultralow power state that helps to preserve battery charge when not in use. This is a bit confusing, why would you need an ultralow power state for your headphones? Is this just so you don't have to turn them on and off? It seems less convenient to put them in and out of a bag than to just turn them off (and preferably fold them) when you're…

It could just mean ultra low power in the same sense as any other modern device. Sitting in a state where it can react to a power button press.

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Post by buildbuildbuild »

mrtksn wrote: post #162

Oh, I find it fascinating how the audio gear industry has taught the consumers on how much money you are supposed to spend to have audio experience at certain level. Pay attention on audiophile arguments, they will talk in terms of money(i.e. 150$ headphones vs 500$ headphones) when talking about audio quality. I always find the audiophile market to be borderline fraud. They sell CD demagnetisers, ceramic cable lifte…

Be careful not to equate pro audio equipment with “overpaying audiophile” gear. Spending $500+ on headphones is common for engineers and musicians alike (typically custom fitted IEMs).

Studios and professionals spend large sums on demonstrably better equipment. You won’t find many who identify as “audiophiles” in the “$1000 optical cable” definition of the word.

AirPods Max are headphones lacking a headphone port. They will not be used by audio professionals. Latency is avoided at all costs in studio, on stage.

Apple’s new headphones are a fashion statement. To some, wearing a new release conveys status. You know how much it costs and they own it. The price of a Porsche might appall you too.

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Post by zeptonaut22 »

lock-free wrote: post #292
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

I'm all for shitting on overpriced products but those you list aren't the same product category. Wireless noise cancelling headphones worth a damn are expensive. Not to mention, Apple is the only company making a headset where the mic doesn't suck and have trash fidelity when you need to speak and listen at the same time.

I'd love to hear an Airpods Max mic test here. This is the only meaningful info I could find on its microphone:

> With AirPods Max, voice calls and Siri commands are crisp and clear due to beam-forming microphones that block out ambient noise and focus on the user’s voice.

Mic quality has become a much higher priority for me and I think others since starting to work from home. In my opinion, high-quality voice audio helps greatly improve the quality of conversations over VC.

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Post by falcolas »

corobo wrote: post #205
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

I dunno if the price is worth it or if it's mostly Apple Magic Pricing TM but honestly having a virtual assistant on hand is pretty good for day to day use - I'd love that in an over-ear. Combine that with wireless and presumably Apple's headphone device switching ability and I'd be tempted if not broke > better sound at a cheaper price Oh nice you've tested them then? How's the sound for mainstream non-gold-plated e…

Probably absurdly bass heavy with muddled mids, based on other Apple and beats headphones. So I’m sure the mainstream will love them.

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Post by ksec »

Edit: Looks like Availability differs greatly across the world. Also wish HN had strikethrough markdown. Keeping the comment below intact.

And while 460 Comments are shitting on its Pricing.

Shipping time is 12 Weeks for Green, 10 Weeks for Blue, and 8 Weeks for other colours. This is looking like the original AirPod launch where supply wont catch up to demand for quite some time. They are selling like hotcakes.

Yes, it is expensive, but it also has 9 Microphones, 9 Sensors and two H1 Chip. So it is more expensive than a B&W PX7, it certainly does offer a lot more functions.

Cant wait to see the reviews.

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Post by bdcravens »

mellosouls wrote: post #181
r0fl wrote: post #122

I know nothing about headphones, nor do I want to invest any time learning about headphones. I’ve had a bunch of Apple products that have never disappointed me in the last 10+ years. I’ll buy these overpriced headphones because an extra $200 for a product I’ll probably use for 5 years will not break my bank account.

(paraphrased) "I know nothing about the subject..." "Not gonna learn about other options..." "Apple doesn't disappoint me..." "I'll buy the overpriced stuff because I can afford it..." This Apple-blinkers comment is telling, and refreshingly honest. I'm sure there are other brands with that sort of attachment, but none that exemplify the phenomenon more.

My take on that comment: "I don't have the expertise to separate one pair of high end headphones from another. My experience with Apple products tells me Apple consistently puts out products that meet or exceed my expectations, so by buying the Apple version of product_x, I feel it's a safe bet."

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Post by stef25 »

heroHACK17 wrote: post #195
eertami wrote: post #113

$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…

> Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. Have you tried them? How do they sound? Do you have a time machine that takes you to Dec. 15?

My defence would be that Apple isn't an audio company and although they're great at everything they do, I doubt they can catch up with Sennheiser, Grado, Audio Technica etc when it comes to pure audio quality.

Where they're better is probably connectivity, noise cancellation (which is still garbage imho), integration with their hardware.

Same with their Homepod - it was innovative not in absolute audio quality but in the way it was omnidirectional and could "fill a room" with sound (if I remember correctly, from having read a review) and connectivity. If you just want great audio for your vinyl, CD or Flac collection then you don't get a Homepod. $300 worth of HiFi gear would be better.

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Post by iqihs »

e40 wrote: post #194
kishinmanglani wrote: post #132

I'm a sucker. I just bought them. I love being able to switch between my iPhone and my Mac on my AirPods. I have the Sony MX3's, and they are great. I don't like toggling between devices and having it automatically connect to my last used device, have to disconnect it from one, blah, blah. This is what Apple does. They raise prices. People are stunned initially. Others follow, then those prices are the norm. iPhone w…

My $350 Bose QC35s connect to both my iPhone and Mac Pro. Seemlessly.

the mic is hot garbage on those

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Post by ilikepi »

AlanYx wrote: post #296
etempleton wrote: post #281

I think these look beautiful and are likely well constructed. The lack of a standard 3.5 mm audio jack is disappointing for a product in this class, but to be expected from Apple. The questions will be sound quality. A lot of people on here are already stating that they don't know why anyone would buy this product when they can get better sounding products for a similar price. I don't know how anyone can know how goo…

>The lack of a standard 3.5 mm audio jack is disappointing for a product in this class, but to be expected from Apple. They quietly released a lightning to 3.5mm audio jack cable today to go with these, for use with legacy gear. It's $35 and is somewhat over-engineered (allows bi-directional usage, containing both an ADC and a DAC).

Interestingly, that cable seems to use a 3-conductor (TRS) 3.5mm connector as opposed the usual 4-conductor one found on EarBuds. So I guess that implies it doesn't carry mic input?
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