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SpaceX Starship Users' Guide [pdf]

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Man, Elon Musk is awesome. Just putting the fact that I just downloaded a user manual for a multi planetary spacecraft in PDF format into historical context, if you think about how thus all came together it really is amazing. We went from "this guy is nuts" to "oh yeah this is probably going to happen." When Tesla first came into public view, the idea that a car entirely electric powered that drives itself developed…

What really stands out is the impact of this guy, too. Imagine he just wouldn't have done those things. Imagine no PayPal, no Tesla, no SpaceX ... it's easy to say "Yeah, someone else would have probably done it then." but that's just not right. Otherwise we'd see a lot more of those things by now. Sure, there are some now, but most if not all are the result of him setting the bar in the first place.

"People are mistaken when they think that technology just automatically improves. It does not automatically improve. It only improves if a lot of people work very hard to make it better" - Elon Musk, at Ted 2017

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Is this irony? Or are you serious?

Absolutely no irony. That's how Elon Musk happened. If you want more Elon Musk that's how you can get them I guess. Soon you'll have an army of geniuses building that cool space utopia for billionaires while the rest of us can stay in the dying world they left us. Our NeuraLink(tm) units will get us through the day, rewarding mining enough rare earth metals with dopamine hits and pain suppression! (That, that was iro…

Stop parroting debunked allegations.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/iivbk5/elon_m...

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Absolutely no irony. That's how Elon Musk happened. If you want more Elon Musk that's how you can get them I guess. Soon you'll have an army of geniuses building that cool space utopia for billionaires while the rest of us can stay in the dying world they left us. Our NeuraLink(tm) units will get us through the day, rewarding mining enough rare earth metals with dopamine hits and pain suppression! (That, that was iro…

Stop parroting debunked allegations. https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/iivbk5/elon_m...

We should tell the kids mining cobalt in congo that Elon Musk's family wealth is in fact, not from an emerald mine and that Elon is a good guy after all!

I wonder why his family got out of South Africa as soon as the apartheid ended and hasn't got back since at least once tho.

Re: SpaceX Starship Users' Guide [pdf]

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Man, Elon Musk is awesome. Just putting the fact that I just downloaded a user manual for a multi planetary spacecraft in PDF format into historical context, if you think about how thus all came together it really is amazing. We went from "this guy is nuts" to "oh yeah this is probably going to happen." When Tesla first came into public view, the idea that a car entirely electric powered that drives itself developed…

> Just putting the fact that I just downloaded a user manual for a multi planetary spacecraft in PDF format into historical context Its not really a user guide though. More like a brief, very high-level technical spec. Marketing material.

It's ridiculous people are buying this shit.

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"The cargo version can also be used for rapid point-to-point Earth transport." Why no one is talking about this. This will be game changer if can be done with bigger payload. There are models created earlier that using rocket technology/mechanism, LA-HK can be reached in 2 hours. This can have huge impact on avionics esp with trade.

That seems very expensive and inefficient compared to planes or ships. What's the use case you're imagining where a plane is just too slow? The only thing I can think of is if some service like FedEx can amortize the cost of the launch across a very large number of low-mass items and charge a premium for fast delivery. Still, I'd assume that this would use vastly more fuel per mass of cargo moved than a plane, and sh…

The last time I remember seeing calculations on this, it worked out that it does use more fuel per kilogram than a cargo plane, but only about 1.5x as much - the reason being that the starship spends most of its flight coasting with nearly zero drag, which an airplane has to fight drag in the atmosphere the whole way to its destination.

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Regarding the PDF: Why does it seem so hard to get good looking justified text? It appears to me that only (La)TeX manages to get spacing 'correct' / aesthetically pleasing (IMHO). Going from the metadata, this file was generated by "Microsoft Office Word": you'd think MS would have the resources to figure this out.

Not sure it's theoretically possible. What you can do in an interactive WYSISYG editor like a word processor and what you can do with batch typesetting program are two different things.

When you edit in a word processor, you have different expectations about the interaction speed, and the locality of changes. A typesetting program can spend two seconds optimizing word spacing when you "render" the document. Word can't. It could spend those 2 seconds when you hit print - but then it's no longer WYSIWYG! It could also apply "TeX-like" typesetting changes (jumbling the spacing around in the whole document on every keystroke) but that also breaks the user's expectation.

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There's a difference between discussing legitimate issues versus going on a tirade rants full of misinformation to prove your point. That's what these channels do. For example one of their videos says that Starship isn't possible because of space radiation. Which is a much discredited idea and has been for years.

The issues of space radiation is far from discredited. It is one.of the major issues that still doesn't have an elegant solution. One.idea that SpaceX is proposing is to try and get the trip to Mars to 6 months. It will still be a serious issue but it would at least be better than the typical trip proposal. One of the reasons I posted that channel was because they seem to have really done their research far beyond th…

It does have a pretty elegant solution: water. Water is an excellent shield against radiation, and any long duration mission will have a large amount of water on board for the humans. With proper positioning of the tanks, said water can do double duty as a radiation shield.

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I realise that Musk has flaws and has received criticism for the spat with the cave diver, ignoring COVID, and labour issues. Want to add that caveat. But beyond that, I feel like in terms of what he's doing Musk is some sort of time traveller, back from the future to boost humanity's progress. Why is he such an outlier? What can we as individuals learn from him? And more importantly, how do we make more Elon Musks?

What annoys me that I would want to be a fan of someone like him but I just find his personality and behavior repulsive. After Jobs and Musk many people will now think you have to be an asshole to be successful and will try emulate the bad parts too. People are biased towards simple explanations of the world so they're biased towards either either Musk is amazing or Musk sucks. The reality is that he's a great enterp…

Edison was an asshole too. And Franklin.

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If Ashlee Vance's biography of Musk can be trusted, he worked different jobs as ancillary worker doing things like selling fruits, cleaning grain silos or even ovens in a factory. As student he is said to have hosted parties for students in a house he and a fellow student had rented to pay for the rent (same source).

Not trolling, but the second point casts doubt on it all, given that I have a hard time imagining Musk hosting parties, let alone getting people to pay for them. This is also pre-hair, pre-money Elon Musk we are talking about.

I won't be looking up the page in the book for you but here is a search result instead:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/09/elon-musk-ran-a-nightclub-ou...

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Is this irony? Or are you serious?

Not him, but I seriously want to know how rich Elon Musk's family is. He never worked a day at a conventional job in his life - this is a huge luxury.

It is, but there's way over a million families in america with a net worth over $10 million.

Bezos is rich. He started a rocket company. Blue Origin has done nowhere near what spacex has done, and that difference isn't down to just throwing money at a problem.

Don't get me wrong, throwing money at the problem is important, but it's just one ingredient.

There are some rich people who have made a difference -- Bill Gates comes to mind as someone that put money and effort in. Chuck Feeney on the "throw money at a problem" side.

But for every Bill Gates there's a Larry Elison, Mark Zuckerberg, Sergy Brin, and dozens more that don't seem to do much.

When it comes to the next generation down, it's even rarer to find kids who are driven to make such a success.

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