The level of rage and indignation in this thread is a good reminder for when you are making your next product:
people are bad at understanding when a product wasn’t made for them.
AirPods Max
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#242$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…
It's the same question for 20 years.
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#243Looks like they do support wired playback. If you add them to your cart, Apple's website suggests this[0] add-on:
> Lightning to 3.5 mm Audio Cable (1.2m)
> Connect AirPods Max to your iOS or iPadOS device. Or connect to 3.5mm audio ports in your car, on an airplane, and more.
After AppleCare, this optional 3.5mm cable, and tax, it comes out to just over $700 USD.
[0]: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MR2C2AM/A/lightning-to-35...
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#244> Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in AirPods Max and iPhone or iPad, spatial audio tracks the motion of a user’s head as well as the device, compares the motion data, then remaps the sound field so it stays anchored to the device, even as the user’s head moves. I'm not sure I want this? What does this actually mean?
It sounds like an unnecessary overengineered feature to me. Could be something Apple is testing and "pre-staging" for the future though. VR/AR?
I just presumed it was existing work from the AR goggles that shipped early because the goggles are not ready yet.
No idea why you'd create it otherwise.
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#245I know nothing about headphones, nor do I want to invest any time learning about headphones. I’ve had a bunch of Apple products that have never disappointed me in the last 10+ years. I’ll buy these overpriced headphones because an extra $200 for a product I’ll probably use for 5 years will not break my bank account.
(paraphrased) "I know nothing about the subject..." "Not gonna learn about other options..." "Apple doesn't disappoint me..." "I'll buy the overpriced stuff because I can afford it..." This Apple-blinkers comment is telling, and refreshingly honest. I'm sure there are other brands with that sort of attachment, but none that exemplify the phenomenon more.
If time equals money, then a reliable track record also has monetary value, at least to the people who are not hobbyists.
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#246I know nothing about headphones, nor do I want to invest any time learning about headphones. I’ve had a bunch of Apple products that have never disappointed me in the last 10+ years. I’ll buy these overpriced headphones because an extra $200 for a product I’ll probably use for 5 years will not break my bank account.
I've been using my pairs of Grados and Sennheisers for 20 years each. The Grados were $200 and the Sennheisers were $150. Apple has never been known for hitting audiophile quality, so even though we don't have reviews yet, they likely don't sound as good. Your Apple headphones will be in the trash in a few years and mine will still be delivering wonderful sound.
to the majority of apple's target consumer, none of this matters.
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#247Oh, I find it fascinating how the audio gear industry has taught the consumers on how much money you are supposed to spend to have audio experience at certain level. Pay attention on audiophile arguments, they will talk in terms of money(i.e. 150$ headphones vs 500$ headphones) when talking about audio quality. I always find the audiophile market to be borderline fraud. They sell CD demagnetisers, ceramic cable lifte…
I dunno about fraud but it does occasionally have similarities to drug usage imo in that you can become aware of certain highs and then wind up endlessly chasing new levels of greatness. I remember the first few albums I listened to on what I then considered HIGH quality headphones (Koss PortaPros and ATH-M50s) and it was mindblowing how much better some albums sounded, how much better they felt. It creates an itch t…
The Porta Pros are still amazing headphones. Lifetime warranty, cheap, and great sound. They work perfect for exercising, if you're willing to put up with the cable
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#248I'm a sucker. I just bought them. I love being able to switch between my iPhone and my Mac on my AirPods. I have the Sony MX3's, and they are great. I don't like toggling between devices and having it automatically connect to my last used device, have to disconnect it from one, blah, blah. This is what Apple does. They raise prices. People are stunned initially. Others follow, then those prices are the norm. iPhone w…
Toggling between devices really needs to be implemented better. Wouldn't it be possible for headphones to have a button to switch "inputs" between devices they are paired to? I've come to use NFC to switch quickly to my phone, but I can't really NFC back to my PC as easily. Several awkward clicks and menus later I can start using them on my PC. Not a huge deal sure, but for a premium device I'd expect something more…
> Wouldn't it be possible for headphones to have a button to switch "inputs" between devices they are paired to?
Bose QC35 has such a switch toggle. It can be paired with four devices, and connected with two simultaneously. Switching between my private Windows computer, iphone and work-Mac is pretty flawless.
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#249Oh, I find it fascinating how the audio gear industry has taught the consumers on how much money you are supposed to spend to have audio experience at certain level. Pay attention on audiophile arguments, they will talk in terms of money(i.e. 150$ headphones vs 500$ headphones) when talking about audio quality. I always find the audiophile market to be borderline fraud. They sell CD demagnetisers, ceramic cable lifte…
I think it is rather naive view. Audio market is an industry with professionals. You can buy spare parts for 30-years old studio headphones. Apple with their "no repair allowed" business model and 500ms latency is a joke.
These are not the professionals, professionals and people who like to listen to music are completely different bunch apart from audiophiles.
The audiophiles don't like music and don't make money from their equipment, they simply obsess with it. They are like those camera nerds talking about the sensors, color science and so on but are not actually into photography. The professional photographers simply use the equipment for the task and the people who love photography don't obsess with the camera. Same thing with the audio.
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#250$549!? That puts it in the same price category as: Sennheiser HD660S, Audeze LCD-1, Beyerdynamic DT1770/1990, Grado RS2e, among many many others. Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional audio companies offering better sound at a cheaper price. At least airpods have a unique selling point in their portability and ux but I don't see how this benefits over-ea…
$499!?
That puts it in the same price category as: Palm Pilot, Blackberry Curve and Nokia N95, among many many others.
Honestly, I don't understand why you would buy these when there are a lot of established professional phone companies offering better phones at a cheaper price.