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> AirPods Max are available to order starting today for $549 (US) from apple.com and in the Apple Store app in the US and more than 25 other countries and regions. AirPods Max will begin shipping on Tuesday, December 15. Edit: After AppleCare, optional 3.5mm cable, and tax, it comes out to just over $700 USD.

"Hey, cool, something not in-ear, this could be just what I was looking for." See's price: Nope... I'll stick with what I've got for now. Those are some of the most expensive headphones I've ever seen and I thought Bose's QC3's at $350 were overpriced. This kicks it up a notch further. I'll be curious what the reviews show for sure, but too rich for my blood.

Guess it’s going to at least somewhat depend on how important spatial audio turns out to be. My QC35s are on their last legs, and I’m certainly pretty curious about these having just ordered some AirPod Pros...

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Is there still latency?

E.G. when I open GarageBand, and hit a piano key - is there still a bloody whole second delay before I hear it in my ‘AirPods Pro’ with a ‘custom’ W1 chip on a device supposedly made for creatives?

No, really. For creators, this might be the worst value proposition I’ve ever seen. $550 USD for headphones that can’t operate without latency.

If it wasn’t for the wheels or the stand on the Mac Pro, I would say this is the worst value proposition I’ve seen, period.

I’ve seen mock-ups of an iPhone 13 without a headphone jack. Will they just stop offering GarageBand, or any other music creation apps?

Apple’s hit a new low. For real.

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Really love my AirPods pro but need more battery life, but not a big fan of over the ear and that price...

However if they can really deliver on quality, battery life and comfort for me $549 is worth it now days with WFH and using my AirPods constantly.

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I thought these looked familiar, but it was just the metal frame reminding me of jabra elite/ evolve. Usually when apple creates a new product they are very careful to give it a distinct look that is immediately identifiable from competitor products. --- Entirely off-topic: Looking forward to seeing people who make 1/3 of what I make (and my salary is pretty average) telling me they are a winner because they snagged…

The implication there is that if someone made twice as much as you did and made a similar brag, that they wouldn't be foolish. You may not think these are a good value purchase. I don't either. But flaunting your income as a sign of being a winner is an ironically similar fallacy.

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Remember the days when Apple was breaking new ground, pushing the limits? The iPod was fundamentally a game changer in the music space. The iPhone caught Blackberry with their pants down and they never recovered. Macbooks were a level up in so many ways to their competitors.

It was worth paying extra for the device Apple was selling because everyone else was years behind them.

Now it's wireless headphones with technologies that have all been done before, for more than $500. Or the same iPhone as last year, with a slightly better processor. Why pay more for that? I mean, sure, they seem high quality enough- but $549 level high quality?

Come on Apple, surprise me. Make me feel like the iPod announcement again.

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$549 a pair. Yikes. I'm fairly confident I've reached my own personal peak for Apple pricing. As a spectator I've no doubt these will sell massive numbers but I'm curious to learn what the market will bear for Apple's products.

Especially if you consider the inherent issues with Bluetooth call quality. No matter how good their microphones in them are, they will mangle the audio back to the 90s. $549 seems entirely detached and I am baffled, even as an ANC enthusiast.

I did hear Rumours (I never looked into it) that there will be an upcoming feature in bluetooth that will allow for higher quality. I believe currently the tradeoff is audio quality vs latency. My bluetooth headphones (Sony) switch between high quality but ~500ms latency (guess), to low quality but no noticeable latency when doing calls.

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$549 a pair. Yikes. I'm fairly confident I've reached my own personal peak for Apple pricing. As a spectator I've no doubt these will sell massive numbers but I'm curious to learn what the market will bear for Apple's products.

For comparison, Sony's WH-1000XM4 which are currently widely considered the state of the art in the active noise cancelling over-ears, will cost you anywhere between $300-$400 depending on where you are.

(I was very surprised the price can vary that widely, actually. On Sony's US page they're $279, while in the EU they're €380 which is about $460.)

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$549 a pair. Yikes. I'm fairly confident I've reached my own personal peak for Apple pricing. As a spectator I've no doubt these will sell massive numbers but I'm curious to learn what the market will bear for Apple's products.

You aren't their target demographic.

The lower class uses luxury products as signaling. It's why iphones sell despite being lower quality. Impracticality is necessary in luxury products.

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