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Camouflaged Military Bunkers of Switzerland (2015)

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Re: Camouflaged Military Bunkers of Switzerland (2015)

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Post by nix23 »

lqet wrote: post #8

Also an interesting fact: The Swiss packed all bridges connecting Switzerland to Germany with tons of explosives until just recently. The wooden bridge [0] connecting Bad Säckingen with Stein contained hundreds of kilo of TNT until 2015. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzbr%C3%BCcke_Bad_S%C3%A4cki...

You have explosive nearly on every main bridge and "autobahn" sometimes in the street sometimes on the walls of mountains, to slow down tanks/troop transports.

Fun detail: Those can just be detonated with a "encoded" metal-plate.

They look a bit like that:

https://img.luzernerzeitung.ch/2018/4/14/5f68fda6-34ec-4375-...

Re: Camouflaged Military Bunkers of Switzerland (2015)

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Post by nl »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #7
nix23 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's made with ventilation thru hidden inlets (often hundreds of meters away), the outlets are over pressure protected, when a explosion outside goes off those then close, so the inhabitants have no eardrum rapture, in the case of nuclear/chemical/bio attack you attach big filters to the inlets. In some Bunkers the circulation is so bad, that after 2 week sleeping on your mattress mold starts to grow in it (bunkerhus…

> It's made with ventilation thru hidden inlets (often hundreds of meters away), the outlets are over pressure protected, when a explosion outside goes off those then close, so the inhabitants have not eardrum rapture, in the case of nuclear/chemical/bio attack you attach big filters to the inlets. Maybe a stupid question, I understand that with Swiss Conscription this is perhaps common knowledge for a large chunk of…

You can take tours and see plans: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/in-case-of-emergency_the-forgot...

Re: Camouflaged Military Bunkers of Switzerland (2015)

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Post by nix23 »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #7
nix23 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's made with ventilation thru hidden inlets (often hundreds of meters away), the outlets are over pressure protected, when a explosion outside goes off those then close, so the inhabitants have no eardrum rapture, in the case of nuclear/chemical/bio attack you attach big filters to the inlets. In some Bunkers the circulation is so bad, that after 2 week sleeping on your mattress mold starts to grow in it (bunkerhus…

> It's made with ventilation thru hidden inlets (often hundreds of meters away), the outlets are over pressure protected, when a explosion outside goes off those then close, so the inhabitants have not eardrum rapture, in the case of nuclear/chemical/bio attack you attach big filters to the inlets. Maybe a stupid question, I understand that with Swiss Conscription this is perhaps common knowledge for a large chunk of…

>should you really be disclosing how bunker ventilation operates, and the additional protection mechanisms etc.

No problem, even civil bunkers works like that, you can make tours and even buy some. However there are some bunkers which are used as "control-centers" and those locations are kind of ~secret, but then again i'm really sure that Russia and the US already know much more about them as i do.

That's a typical over-pressure vent (seen from the inside):

http://www.bochumer-bunker.de/Spellna2.jpg

And a filter-system for civil use (with hand-crank in case of power-outage):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Fi...

And one for big Bunkers/Fortresses:

http://www.vorbei-ev.de/wwwa/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/bunk...

Hint for recruits/active military: In military bunkers the outlets are also very important so that the "enemy" cannot smell your kitchen or see the warm air (infrared), which makes it a excellent place to smoke some green stuff ;)

Re: Camouflaged Military Bunkers of Switzerland (2015)

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Post by GordonS »

TobTobXX wrote: post #14

Fun Fact: The Swiss once lost tanks in their underground networks. Around 400. https://www.nzz.ch/maurers_schimmelnde_panzer-1.8120259

Might be a very stupid question, but when you saw "lost", do you mean they were destroyed somehow, or do you literally mean lost as in "couldn't find them"?

Re: Camouflaged Military Bunkers of Switzerland (2015)

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Post by skitter »

TobTobXX wrote: post #14

Fun Fact: The Swiss once lost tanks in their underground networks. Around 400. https://www.nzz.ch/maurers_schimmelnde_panzer-1.8120259

According to the article, they didn't loose them, the Minister of Defense just pretended they were suddenly found again.

Re: Camouflaged Military Bunkers of Switzerland (2015)

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Post by Faaak »

nix23 wrote: post #11
lqet wrote: post #8

Also an interesting fact: The Swiss packed all bridges connecting Switzerland to Germany with tons of explosives until just recently. The wooden bridge [0] connecting Bad Säckingen with Stein contained hundreds of kilo of TNT until 2015. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holzbr%C3%BCcke_Bad_S%C3%A4cki...

You have explosive nearly on every main bridge and "autobahn" sometimes in the street sometimes on the walls of mountains, to slow down tanks/troop transports. Fun detail: Those can just be detonated with a "encoded" metal-plate. They look a bit like that: https://img.luzernerzeitung.ch/2018/4/14/5f68fda6-34ec-4375-...

There was explosives, but they've all been taken out ~10 years ago
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