There are some stuff to consider for titanic. 97% of female vip class survived. Also 87% of female crew members survived. Don't try to be hero just because you are a male.
How to Escape a Sinking Ship
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Re: How to Escape a Sinking Ship
#122Somewhat tongue in cheek, but still some good advice here: -- Know your surroundings, specifically where your exits are. The nearest exit may be behind you. -- Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it. -- Be where the well-connected people are, and look/act the part. Try to blend into the tribe, be a…
Ignoring the instructions of flight attendants will allow you to get out with your briefcase, but may get others killed. That's the real issue - sacrificing something to help others. As we have seen during the last year, some are not even willing to put up with the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask (which they inflate with horror stories to rationalize it) to help others, so forgive me if I sound cynical...
Re: How to Escape a Sinking Ship
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which might also explain why they beat Covid faster and more effectively, on the other hand.
They haven't beaten Covid. Their current curve is quickly approaching the spring numbers, expected to hit the February peak next week. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1...
You're right, although I'm measuring by EU and US standards. I admit I had more like Vietnam, Taiwan and China in mind, than South Korea, thanks for the link.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which might also explain why they beat Covid faster and more effectively, on the other hand.
They haven't beaten Covid. Their current curve is quickly approaching the spring numbers, expected to hit the February peak next week. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1...
Deaths per million in Korea is a factor of 80 lower than in the US. Even if they return to previous highs they are way outperforming the US.
Re: How to Escape a Sinking Ship
#125Somewhat tongue in cheek, but still some good advice here: -- Know your surroundings, specifically where your exits are. The nearest exit may be behind you. -- Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it. -- Be where the well-connected people are, and look/act the part. Try to blend into the tribe, be a…
The most important guideline is:
Know the safety rules better than the staff, and know WHY those safety rules are in place. Staff are people, and people do stupid things all the time. Unless you know why the rules exist, you're likely to make things worse by disregarding them, and you're guaranteed to amplify any staff screw-ups by following their instructions blindly.
Re: How to Escape a Sinking Ship
#126Somewhat tongue in cheek, but still some good advice here: -- Know your surroundings, specifically where your exits are. The nearest exit may be behind you. -- Break the rules. Officials may try to deter you from using passages, ladders or stairwells. Ignore them. If you need to kick open a door or pick a lock, do it. -- Be where the well-connected people are, and look/act the part. Try to blend into the tribe, be a…
> Obviously in a modern context, these guidelines don't apply.
That's not always true. Look at the Grenfell Tower fire in London. The official advice was for residents to stay in their flats, not panic, and definitely not rush out the building. But of course that was completely the wrong advice and it was much better to follow your instincts and get out than to stay put.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good, but the numerous references to the ocean, 14 of them, indicate sloppy writing. Baltic is a relatively small, shallow and closed sea. It can be fierce, but ocean it is not.
That's misguided pedantry, I think. Most seas are a subset of the ocean, and the Baltic is an arm of the Atlantic.
And in addition, the article was published in The Atlantic.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I love vivid, harrowing writing like this. Despite seeing James Cameron's Titanic, I never pictured the ships themselves as being such an obstacle to survival. This makes it feel so real. It's haunting. Do you have anything more like this?
If you can accept Planes instead of Ships, Mayday is a good show that guides on through the accident investigations of plane crashes (from a short video of the crash with details removed, through the investigation process and then finally a short section on the recommendations issued)
It is the same show, but it has different names:
Air Crash Investigation
Also (according to Wikipedia): Air Emergency (National Geographic Channel, U.S.) Air Disasters (Smithsonian Channel, U.S.) Mayday: Air Disaster (Weather Channel, U.S.)
Re: How to Escape a Sinking Ship
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which might also explain why they beat Covid faster and more effectively, on the other hand.
They haven't beaten Covid. Their current curve is quickly approaching the spring numbers, expected to hit the February peak next week. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1...
> New cases reported Monday exceeded 600 for the second day in a row, bringing the total to more than 38,000, with about 550 deaths.
South Korea's population is around 50 million. Their total deaths from Covid are similar to the daily death rate during the first peak in the UK, a similarly sized Western country.
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As an extreme example I'm reminded of this south korean ferry disaster where 304 passengers died: > As Sewol began sinking, the ferry's intercom system started ordering the passengers to stay put, alleging that moving was dangerous. The announcements were made by a communication officer, Kang Hae-seong, who had not consulted the manual before the broadcast. The announcements began broadcasting by at least 8:52 a.m. a…
It's a well-known issue in some countries: authorities are never questioned even if the decisions are obviously wrong. For Korea, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Cargo_Flight_8509#I...
> When the captain tried to bank the plane to turn left, his ADI showed it not banking, but the comparator alarm sounded repeatedly. The first officer did not say anything regarding the alarm and told the captain that the aircraft should turn at 1.5 miles according to the distance measuring equipment. The older and more experienced flight engineer did call out "bank" four times in 19 seconds, but the captain ignored his warnings, continued to ignore the chiming alarm, made no verbal response, and actually continued to increase the left bank angle. At 18:38, 55 seconds after take-off, Flight 8509's left wing dragged along the ground, then the aircraft plunged into the ground at a speed of between 250 and 300 knots, in a 40° pitch down and 90° left bank attitude. The aircraft exploded on impact.
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