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Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by JoshTriplett »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #57
wegs wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the reason to make promises is that they are legally enforceable: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/promissory_estoppel.asp When I started an organization which was taken over in a rather hostile way, I was very careful to make a bunch of legally-binding promises before the takeover happened, to help prevent it from becoming too evil.

> When I started an organization which was taken over in a rather hostile way, I was very careful to make a bunch of legally-binding promises before the takeover happened, to help prevent it from becoming too evil. I'm glad you had the presence of mind to do this and I'd be interested to hear your hostile takeover story. Thanks in advance.

I'd love to hear that story as well, and the nature of the legally binding promises you managed to make.

Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by jcheng »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #22
Benjammer wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly made you "doubt" this fact before now?

I thought maybe there were sometimes exceptions to the rule.

There are NEVER exceptions to this particular rule, at least not in tech.

Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by kroggen »

wegs wrote: post #51
Uehreka wrote: post #35

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I wonder how many people start out making pledges like that because they wish other companies would and they want to be the change they wish to see in the world. And they don’t realize that taking investor money means you no longer have the power to keep your promises even if you want to because you’re promising with other people’s money.

Part of the reason to make promises is that they are legally enforceable: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/promissory_estoppel.asp When I started an organization which was taken over in a rather hostile way, I was very careful to make a bunch of legally-binding promises before the takeover happened, to help prevent it from becoming too evil.

Please share more info about your case

Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by smabie »

neves wrote: post #58
rpdillon wrote: post #41

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My previous company was on Travis, and as soon as I saw that Travis was purchased by private equity, I knew the downward spiral had begun and I recommended we move to something else. Not surprised that this is happening a couple of years later...my understanding is that private equity will tend towards slowing/stopping development after acquisition to cut costs/headcount, and then squeeze the remaining value from wha…

Are there any evidence of private equity providing benefits for society? Sometimes it looks like they have a inverse Midas hand, everything they touch putrefy.

Like everything else in finance, they do good by making their investors money. These investors then can use the money for fulfilling their purpose/charter/business plan.

For example, a school could use its endowment to give out scholarships, a pension fund pays out retirees, etc etc.

Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by shp0ngle »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #9
geerlingguy wrote: post #7

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That seems to stem from the fact they killed off pretty much the entire engineering team after the acquisition (judging by tweets I remember reading shortly afterwards).

I will never again doubt what "purchase by private equity" means again, it is clear.

It really depends on who is buying.

But with Travis and Idera it was pretty clear it will go this way, looking at past Idera purchases.

Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by newnamenewface »

smabie wrote: post #75
neves wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any evidence of private equity providing benefits for society? Sometimes it looks like they have a inverse Midas hand, everything they touch putrefy.

Like everything else in finance, they do good by making their investors money. These investors then can use the money for fulfilling their purpose/charter/business plan. For example, a school could use its endowment to give out scholarships, a pension fund pays out retirees, etc etc.

I would challenge the conceit that 'they do good by making their investors money.' They make their investors money, full-stop. Perhaps their investors choose to do good with that money, more likely, they choose to do business with that money. The private equity at no point ever did good through the act of making money, they did their job.

Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by lopatin »

Looks like this is what happens when unique companies with a vision hire mediocre business execs. I'm sure there are other ways to monetize while keeping OSS actually free. But you won't get there when your top decision makers treat the core user base with contempt. Now they're yet another CI company I can ignore. I'll be happy to learn another API (Github Actions) or even pay for CI. And it leaves the door open for other innovators (now that you have stopped innovating). Great job all around guys.

Re: Travis CI is no longer providing CI minutes for open source projects

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Post by reificator »

tonymet wrote: post #43

In response to the scorn in the comments. Free SAAS resources are like Costco samplers. Be grateful when they are handed out, and be prepared for them to be taken away. These things do cost money, and like drugs are given away to make you a customer – but there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Sure, but on the other hand when Costco claims they're always going to have free samples, then slashes the hours they serve free samples down to an hour a week, and then says you have to have a gold-star membership to have samples, and then cuts the samples down to plain, individual saltine crackers and tortilla chips, and then they start limiting them to one per family, all while proclaiming that they love offering free samples in all of their coupon books...

...maybe they're not doing so well financially and you should start looking at a Sam's Club membership instead of renewing, because this hypothetical Costco might not be around for a full year's membership.

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