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Re: Stop-saying-PHP-is-dead

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I have started one side project , and one startup this last 3 month, all in php/symfony, though I have made extensive use of python (and php) in the past (and do a lot of rust on the side) 1. A mature ecosystem: Symfony is really really mature, all use case of a classic website are covered: * easy "admin" generation -> check * easy styling of your forms (a guy already made a 'tailwind' template, now I just do {{ form…

You have invested a lot of time into PHP and can make a living out of it. More power to you! But from my anecdotal experience not many new developers invest the time to learn PHP. At the two universities I've been to, PHP is usually one and done thing. You take one course or just a few lessons with PHP in web development class and then move on to other things.

I also got the same kind of class, I think php was a 2 week class (less than the Java courses or SQL courses, same as the ASM courses).

a 2/3 of my career was python, I 2~3 years of PHP around 2011-2014, and now I'm using it back as I'm finally doing my own company.

And the best part of it ? It's right where I left it, even thought it went from 5.4 to 8 , and from symfony 2 to 5. It feels like leaving your old band from college to find out you all have the same habits, just everyone improved along the road.

Regardless how much I like python, to have been the one needing to own the "python2 to 3 migration" projects of 3 companies, it was not pretty.

Re: Stop-saying-PHP-is-dead

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Seems like this "dead" language has, as of today 2020-12-05, been used by the 79.1% of websites. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_langua...

isn't that more because PHP is one of the few languages that announces itself in the HTTP headers?

The rest is 21.9%. Even if it was just 1 language, that's less.

Re: Stop-saying-PHP-is-dead

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post #18

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I have started one side project , and one startup this last 3 month, all in php/symfony, though I have made extensive use of python (and php) in the past (and do a lot of rust on the side) 1. A mature ecosystem: Symfony is really really mature, all use case of a classic website are covered: * easy "admin" generation -> check * easy styling of your forms (a guy already made a 'tailwind' template, now I just do {{ form…

You have invested a lot of time into PHP and can make a living out of it. More power to you! But from my anecdotal experience not many new developers invest the time to learn PHP. At the two universities I've been to, PHP is usually one and done thing. You take one course or just a few lessons with PHP in web development class and then move on to other things.

My anecdotal experience is that in university, the only programming languages I learned where C, C++, and COBOL.

The rest was data structures, algorithms, etc. I've picked up many languages over the years and just applied CS concepts on them.

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