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Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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He is on the Wall of Honor at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum: https://airandspace.si.edu/support/wall-of-honor/dr-chaim-es...

Being notable for something doesn’t make you credible in everything. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

And yet, who could be more credible? As long as all we've got is someone's word, he seems nearly as good as it gets.

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Although the whole thing is ridiculous, he would've nearly had me at they're in communication part with me imagining some laser communication method. The Mars story just took it too far. Come on people, at least make sure your conspiracy is plausible.

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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He is on the Wall of Honor at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum: https://airandspace.si.edu/support/wall-of-honor/dr-chaim-es...

Being notable for something doesn’t make you credible in everything. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

Exactly: that remind me Kary Mullis, a Nobel Prize (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Use_of_hallucinoge...). I had a colleague AIDS denialist, he told be that AIDS doesn't exist and that's a fact because Mullins sayd so. So I read about this man that is a brilliant biochemist but with no title or specialization or experience to qualify him as AIDS expert. Reading about his personal life, I learned he was also an hallucinogens addict.About that, he also claimed "to have been rescued from a fatal accident by a person travelling in an astral plane, and to have conversed with an alien disguised as a raccoon" (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2019/08/19/kary-mulli...). So I asked to my colleague: "what's your opinion about aliens?", his response: "they are among us, I'm sure: Mullins sayd so!". :-)

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Being notable for something doesn’t make you credible in everything. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

Exactly: that remind me Kary Mullis, a Nobel Prize ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Use_of_hallucinoge... ). I had a colleague AIDS denialist, he told be that AIDS doesn't exist and that's a fact because Mullins sayd so. So I read about this man that is a brilliant biochemist but with no title or specialization or experience to qualify him as AIDS expert. Reading about his personal life, I learned he was a…

And yet this is the former head of a space agency talking about space aliens. He's within his field of expertise.

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Exactly: that remind me Kary Mullis, a Nobel Prize ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Use_of_hallucinoge... ). I had a colleague AIDS denialist, he told be that AIDS doesn't exist and that's a fact because Mullins sayd so. So I read about this man that is a brilliant biochemist but with no title or specialization or experience to qualify him as AIDS expert. Reading about his personal life, I learned he was a…

And yet this is the former head of a space agency talking about space aliens. He's within his field of expertise.

The inventor of PCR is about as “within his field” on HIV as this guy is on aliens.

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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And yet this is the former head of a space agency talking about space aliens. He's within his field of expertise.

The inventor of PCR is about as “within his field” on HIV as this guy is on aliens.

The field still seems fairly undifferentiated, so 'space agency' seems to cover space travel, astronomy, satellites, and anything else outside the atmosphere. Who else is more credible, someone from SETI?

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Sure. “He’s full of it” is still an option, though. I’d argue it’s the likely one. People have been killed for revealing lesser secrets.

My priors would say 99% odds he's full of it, but you have to admit that if he's not (and if he really was the head of Israel Defense space division, makes him 1 of a very few people who would know), then this would be the biggest story in the history of the earth. So shouldn't we at least take a look? The Top Story on HN right now is about a finance deal between Uber and Aururo. Pretty sure that even though that one…

Agreed, this is fascinating and potentially huge. This comes months after the Pentagon released UFO footage for the first time (not necessarily alien, but unidentified). Wonder if there could be a coordinated effort to slowly disseminate the information to the public slowly instead of all at once.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-...

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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"humanity isn't ready" is classic conspiracy theory. It means "we the (secret) governments are in control of the situation". Especially with the moon base. It's a classic comforting and chaos limiting conspiracy theory giveaway.

To consider it possible implies you think it's possible for our governments to collaborate and keep things secret for our own benefit.

I believe that if there were aliens that mankind will do just fine, no panic, in fact the existence of a real "other" maybe something the species might need.

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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He's selling a book.

Also, this part is so contradictory:

But Eshed insists that Trump is aware of them, and that he was "on the verge" of disclosing their existence. However, the Galactic Federation reportedly stopped him from doing so, saying they wished to prevent mass hysteria since they felt humanity needed to "evolve and reach a stage where we will... understand what space and spaceships are," Yediot Aharonot reported.

So it's wrong for Trump to disclose the existence of the Galactic Federation, but Eshed is free to do so? Hmm...

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