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Re: Google Music Service

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Post by smhinsey »

jcampbell1 wrote: post #70
cypherpunks01 wrote: post #10

From the screenshot, it looks even less useful than Amazon's player. You have to upload all of your own music yourself, which would take forever for anyone who has a collection big enough that they can't carry on their phone or ipod. Also, there is absolutely no conceivable benefit to musicians. At least amazon allows you to easily buy albums. There doesn't appear to be any useful additional functionality either. Soc…

> ...upload all of your own music yourself, which would take forever... Does anyone know if they actually upload the files, or just upload if a hash of the file doesn't exist? I have a hard time believing that Google hasn't already thought of this. I imagine that less than 5% of your music actually has to go over the wire once google has a large collection of music on their servers.

I can't speak for Google, but Amazon doesn't do it. It took 41 hours to upload my collection (not counting podcasts, which for whatever absurd reason are not supported) to Cloud Player and I have a 15mbps fios connection. If I had a regular cable modem or whatever I probably wouldn't have bothered.

Re: Google Music Service

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Post by smhinsey »

kin wrote: post #78
nek4life wrote: post #77

This is not what I thought they would be releasing at all. I was hoping that it would just introspect your personal music collection and allow you access to any track that it found that had a match in their music catalog. I really don't want to upload my entire music collection somewhere else as it would take forever and while it's free now there may be usage fees on transfer in the future.

i drool to what you thought they would be releasing. EDIT: by drool i mean salivate. that certainly sounds like an amazing service.

The frustrating thing is that's how lala worked. The upside is that maybe possibly Apple will keep that feature for their version of it.

Re: Google Music Service

#83

Post by cake »

smhinsey wrote: post #81
jcampbell1 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...upload all of your own music yourself, which would take forever... Does anyone know if they actually upload the files, or just upload if a hash of the file doesn't exist? I have a hard time believing that Google hasn't already thought of this. I imagine that less than 5% of your music actually has to go over the wire once google has a large collection of music on their servers.

I can't speak for Google, but Amazon doesn't do it. It took 41 hours to upload my collection (not counting podcasts, which for whatever absurd reason are not supported) to Cloud Player and I have a 15mbps fios connection. If I had a regular cable modem or whatever I probably wouldn't have bothered.

Whoa, that quiet ridiculous. Why wouldn't they hash/check the files before ? Is there any good reason ?

Re: Google Music Service

#85

Post by spydez »

thomasgerbe wrote: post #73
tybris wrote: post #66

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Cool, I'll just upload all my music, turn on my car radio, and ... hey wait a minute.

1. Upload music. 2. Turn on car radio 3. Connect smartphone to car radio

This is what I do.

Now I just need my phone to auto-realize it's in the car and start playing music over Bluetooth or something to the car stereo. Too bad I have an iPhone - if I had an Android I'd be tempted to implement this myself.

Re: Google Music Service

#86

Post by smhinsey »

cake wrote: post #83
smhinsey wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for Google, but Amazon doesn't do it. It took 41 hours to upload my collection (not counting podcasts, which for whatever absurd reason are not supported) to Cloud Player and I have a 15mbps fios connection. If I had a regular cable modem or whatever I probably wouldn't have bothered.

Whoa, that quiet ridiculous. Why wouldn't they hash/check the files before ? Is there any good reason ?

It's probably some sort of tactical play to keep the record labels from shutting them down.

Re: Google Music Service

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Post by dminor »

cake wrote: post #83
smhinsey wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for Google, but Amazon doesn't do it. It took 41 hours to upload my collection (not counting podcasts, which for whatever absurd reason are not supported) to Cloud Player and I have a 15mbps fios connection. If I had a regular cable modem or whatever I probably wouldn't have bothered.

Whoa, that quiet ridiculous. Why wouldn't they hash/check the files before ? Is there any good reason ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_v._MP3.com

Re: Google Music Service

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Post by res0nat0r »

nek4life wrote: post #77

This is not what I thought they would be releasing at all. I was hoping that it would just introspect your personal music collection and allow you access to any track that it found that had a match in their music catalog. I really don't want to upload my entire music collection somewhere else as it would take forever and while it's free now there may be usage fees on transfer in the future.

This would be great, but I don't think the music industry would in any way allow this. I think I just read something that they are trying to pressure Amazon into actually storing a copy of the same mp3 for every user which is using their cloud service in S3. This is their way of trying to cause pain to Amazon, in that they want a 'physical copy' of each media file for every user which has access to the tune.

Re: Google Music Service

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Post by jcampbell1 »

smhinsey wrote: post #86
cake wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa, that quiet ridiculous. Why wouldn't they hash/check the files before ? Is there any good reason ?

It's probably some sort of tactical play to keep the record labels from shutting them down.

You are probably right, though they should just call it "distributed hash compression technology for super-fast uploads", rather than "if we already have a copy of that song, it doesn't need to be re-uploaded".

Re: Google Music Service

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Post by est »

liuliu wrote: post #28
cypherpunks01 wrote: post #18

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Can you explain very briefly what it does? The only part I can read is "Music streaming/download services are not available in your region" Is it the same product they're rolling out in the US?

It is not the same. It is free for search, download and stream, and Google China actually has a deal with big Chinese Record Labels. But from what learned years ago, it cannot stream music to mobile devices.

> a deal with big Chinese Record Labels

Are you sure?

music.google.cn is cooperated with YaoMing's top100.cn, here is the list of labels

http://www.top100.cn/corparation/

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