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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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I would think that Cyberpunk 2077 would have good Proton compatibility on day one. It runs on Stadia, which uses Vulkan.

There's been no word of Vulkan support in the public Windows build though, as far as we know it only uses DirectX 12

So they have Vulkan support because of stadia but won't release it publicly? That's kinda stupid

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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How does tpm or secureboot assist in anti cheat?

When you can remotely prove that the entire boot chain has not been tampered with, it’s much harder to load cheat software in the kernel layer. Of course, still possible, just harder and easier to detect.

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Discord and spotify are both electron on Linux, so I would imagine it would work.

Spotify used to be Qt, has it changed?

Yes, yes it has. The UI is still quite good, and doesn't seem to have the downsides that many Electron apps have, except for the amount of memory used by it (still much less than Slack or Skype)

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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It's not Chrome specific though.

afaik Stadia is chrome specific. try visiting http://stadia.google.com/ on another browser. I can't even login and view my previous screenshots, let alone play a game.

Most every cloud gaming is Chrome specific. Heck the Amazon cloud gaming doesn't even work on Chrome on Linux....

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Now I'm biased because I'm an anti-cheat developer, but I really can't see how checking the integrity of your installed kernel device drivers is at all invasive.

What if I use open source drivers? How are you going to do that? What business is it of yours that I might write my own? Or (more likely) patch my own? What about my HID drivers? Sensitive keystrokes? Yeah, I just don't see games needing access to such kernel level items.

> What business is it of yours that I might write my own?

If they're providing online servers for you to play on with other people, under the condition that you aren't cheating and they are responsible for stopping cheating for everyone, they very much do care and it is their business, if you want to use their servers.

Having custom drivers is how you get wallhacks or custom mouse control macros that eliminates some of the challenges imposed by the game (e.g. automatic recoil control).

For a single player game, I agree, who cares, but for online games that live and die by competitive play and stopping cheaters so people can enjoy it, there's only so many options of how to find cheaters and so much resources to put towards it, so you get stuff like this.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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There's been no word of Vulkan support in the public Windows build though, as far as we know it only uses DirectX 12

So they have Vulkan support because of stadia but won't release it publicly? That's kinda stupid

It wouldn't be the first time, there's a bunch of games on Stadia that have no public Linux build or Vulkan support in their Windows build

Maybe Google are licensing a proprietary DX->VK wrapper for Stadia developers to use, so they can't release it elsewhere?

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Now I'm biased because I'm an anti-cheat developer, but I really can't see how checking the integrity of your installed kernel device drivers is at all invasive.

What if I use open source drivers? How are you going to do that? What business is it of yours that I might write my own? Or (more likely) patch my own? What about my HID drivers? Sensitive keystrokes? Yeah, I just don't see games needing access to such kernel level items.

There’s nothing stopping you from using open source drivers, actually. Plenty of open-source projects like Dokan will typically run fine with an anti-cheat (ours will, certainly). What stops you from running a patched version is actually Windows itself, since Windows requires drivers to be signed with an authenticode codesigning certificate. Plenty of open-source projects and people have one, though. So it’s not an anti-cheat blocking you, it’s Windows itself. Of course, if you go out of your way to disable driver signature enforcement, most anti-cheats will prevent you from playing, but this is a mode strongly discouraged from Microsoft and does weaken your computer’s security.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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I switched back from Pop!_OS about a month ago, after nearly a year of using it exclusively. My previous laptop broke, so I got a new one. Of course I immediately created a Pop! partition and started installing stuff. I tried Doom Eternal... and it was running extremely slow for what you'd expect from a RTX 2080. Surely enough, I switched to my Windows 10 partition and the game ran smooth like butter over there. I sp…

I'm a bit skeptical of all the positivity here. Heck if I can't edit mouse acceleration with ease, how hard is it going to be to watch Netflix? Do I need to downgrade chromium to 30.4 just to install some plugin incompatible with the v32 chromium? These are real issues that you'd expect Ubuntu to have working from defaults. I'm not asking for every porn website to work, but all FAANG websites to work.

Netflix not playing in Chromium is a Chromium problem, not a Linux problem. Don't blame Linux for Chrome and Netflix making the web a proprietary DRM shithole.

If you want Netflix in Linux it's as simple as installing the official Google Chrome browser.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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I recently ordered a Valve Index + gaming PC. How's the VR support on Linux looking like? I'd rather not install Windows if I have to.

I own a Valve index and have eben running it exclusively on a linux gaming PC for the last couple months. There are problems. The VR games themselves are generally good. Games generally "just work" but some of the other VR bits and pieces are troublesome. Each time I play I have to bounce around menus to enable sound through the headset. And very few media players work in linux (codex issues). Skybox VR works, but no…

You usually have the sound using HDMI/Display port output ? I suggest enabling simultaneous sound output.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Now I'm biased because I'm an anti-cheat developer, but I really can't see how checking the integrity of your installed kernel device drivers is at all invasive.

As a guy who plays games that have a lot of cheaters, it is incredibly frustrating. Riot's rootkit shit is a small price to play enjoyably with friends. I care more about the experience than I do about the risk of Riot fucking up my Windows install. Keep doing what you're doing. Just, if you'd leave the anti-cheat off friend-to-friend-PvP games, that would be cool. I don't care if my younger brother 'cheats' against…

It’s usually down to the game developer to implement features like that.
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