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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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The bugs are probably still there on the Windows version but those users are less accustomed to filling bug reports.

Or Unity Linux is less stable ? Like if y'all really want I can upload the Linux build and make it clear it's not going to work as well. I can't support every single distro after all

I honestly think that some game developers should seriously consider cutting off their games feet and open sourcing them. Nothing interesting e.g. just the parts that do the slow stuff that talks to the OS.

Especially in very niche games with small teams, there is 0 IP in the boring parts of the game. If your code isn't too much of a clusterfuck, I will happily try and fix the bug myself and make a PR.

That and I firmly believe that open source is by far the most efficient way to ensure a reasonable code quality.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Anti-cheat apps like BattleEye still prevent a lot of games from being worthwhile on Linux.

This is true. I've just pivoted to not playing games with restrictive anti-cheat. It's not ideal, but it's only a small handful of games and I've got plenty of other stuff to play, and the stuff I do play runs flawlessly. Well worth it to me to never have to worry about Windows nonsense ever again.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Real pending question is will Cyberpunk work on linux?

Sort of an extension of this: does Google Stadia availability imply an official build for linux? Are they under some kind of exclusivity agreement with regards to a linux version?

Not necessarily; technically there is a Linux build being developed, but it being used on Stadia doesn't necessarily mean it will be released to others.

Just Dance 2020/2021 is a good example of this: the PC version was discontinued in 2017, but 2020 and 2021 were also released on Stadia -- without an accompanying PC build.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the differences between Windows developers and Linux developers is that Windows developers generally do worry about what dependencies the user has installed. They specifically do not want to make dependencies the user's problem. Linux developers historically make dependencies someone else's problem.

And windows developers solve this problem in precisely the same way, by bundling dependencies.

Sure, but a Windows developer only has to bundle things that can't be relied on in the base OS. In Linux almost everything in user space fits in that category.

The vast majority of Linux developers don't ever do anything with dependencies and just rely on packagers to do it for them. I hardly ever use closed source Linux software, but it has been my experience that they support at most 2 precise distro versions.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

How does Stadia strike you as an alternative? It works on anything (AFAIK) that runs Chrome.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

Forgive my ignorance, but why do game servers ban Linux players in pvp games? Fear of some sort of modding only available on Linux?

Modern anticheats are basically kernel rootkits which go even to the point of trying to checksum your drivers and inspect how they work. They're basically as invasive as they get.

They obviously can't hook into Linux kernel so they react by just banning the player.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Can you use Proton for games you've purchased on GOG? I've been funneling more (not all) of my purchases to the DRM-free store front lately.

Yup. Check out Lutris - you don't need Steam to get the benefits of Proton (and you don't need a specifically Proton Wine build for most games).

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive my ignorance, but why do game servers ban Linux players in pvp games? Fear of some sort of modding only available on Linux?

It’s basically an anti-cheat “feature”. The assumption is that if you’re running a windows game on Linux you’re probably cheating.

I'd say there's some basis there. Discussed here prior: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20445748
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