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With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

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as i understand it the big roadblock for multiplayer AAA titles is anticheat, and dont see anyway that changes until linux eats into the MS marketshare (but it should.. linux is a joy!)

Anticheats are anti-consumer; They restrict what you can do on your own machine. It's better not to have these games.

They also make some games actually playable, which is a shame.

Ultimately anti-cheat within the application itself, I find, should be considered acceptable whereas Riot's Vanguard/rootkit solution is an ugly hack. Valve seem to be showing it's possible via both automation (ML) and community judgement to make achieve results - the aim needs to ensure all players look "normal", not stop all cheats (the latter aim is impossible).

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sort of an extension of this: does Google Stadia availability imply an official build for linux? Are they under some kind of exclusivity agreement with regards to a linux version?

The difference with an official linux build vs Stadia using linux is the fact that they (currently) have only one hardware configuration to worry about.

If they are using a traditional driver setup wouldn't the software be the problem rather than the hardware i.e. Vulkan is Vulkan, Ubuntu is not Arch?

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#83
post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

Forgive my ignorance, but why do game servers ban Linux players in pvp games? Fear of some sort of modding only available on Linux?

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#84
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe in the short term, but if it means a bigger part of the steam userbase is running games on Linux, it will become economically justified for more developers to work on first-party titles.

I've been hearing that line for close to two decades. I don't think Valve even supports their old GoldSrc games that they ported to run on Linux way back.

Proton is still very new, and it's night-and-day better than any previous gaming experience on Linux. I don't think past trends necessarily apply

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#85
post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

Forgive my ignorance, but why do game servers ban Linux players in pvp games? Fear of some sort of modding only available on Linux?

Modern anti-cheat platforms can be pretty invasive and tie very closely into the operating system - ie, if designed for Windows, they often simply won't work at all through some other layer like Proton/Wine.

This is interpreted by many game companies as an attempt to cheat, rather than simply an unsupported use case.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#87

I got Flight Simulator working on linux... this is a dream come true. Thanks Proton/Steam :)

Apparently Falcon BMS works on Proton too - for those unfamiliar it's an extremely detailed (study-) sim of the F-16, combined with a dynamic campaign in which the quality of your virtual piloting affects the surrounding war rather than just missions like DCS.

As soon as DCS actually knows what threads are we're in business.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#88
post #77
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, because I can't just play the PvE content on linux. I get banned upon a few minutes of just launching the game.

I think GP is defending your initial statement, not arguing against it. They're responding to the person who disagreed with you about the game being mostly PvE.

Ah yeah I misread. Thank you!

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#89
post #22

Another Linux gamer. I seriously don't miss windows anymore. At this point I'm not worried about compatibility, but rather shitty game companies banning you the second they figure out you're playing on linux. This is especially an issue in PvE heavy games that have only small PvP elements. Looking at you Destiny 2. I really wish companies stopped their draconian policies about Linux gaming. Or at the very least just…

Forgive my ignorance, but why do game servers ban Linux players in pvp games? Fear of some sort of modding only available on Linux?

It’s basically an anti-cheat “feature”. The assumption is that if you’re running a windows game on Linux you’re probably cheating.

Re: With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work on Linux

#90

Can you use Proton for games you've purchased on GOG? I've been funneling more (not all) of my purchases to the DRM-free store front lately.

Apparently, yes, though I've never tried it: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/k2kyjt/is_it_...
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