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Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by dnautics »

Nbox9 wrote: post #90
dnautics wrote: post #78

Perhaps this is self-serving of me, since I want to build a product like this, but: I think honestly the problem is that these systems are not consumer-oriented products. I think there is a real desire by people to not have to live as rentiers in the digital marketplace, but there are not really products that cater to that. IMO There's a place for something that merges a NAS, with some sort of overlay over current IP…

Have you looked at Western Digital’s My Cloud? It’s more or less what you described.

thanks! This looks pretty cool, I'll test it out for competition analysis. There's features i'd want (like pluggable applications) but it looks nice.

Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by dbsmith83 »

chrisco255 wrote: post #67
spurgu wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably going to (and should) be downvoted as well, but... while I respect republican/conservative views, how can you not see that this moron is the epitome of a shitty wannabe dictator? He's used all his power to try to falsely prove that the election was a fraud (while building up for it all summer), and failing miserably at it. He would definitely try any other viable means if could. I don't even know what his ac…

Because he's the first president since Jimmy Carter not to start a new armed conflict? He negotiated middle east peace agreements between Israel and 4 or 5 other nations. He created Opportunity Zones for tax-incentivized investments in poor (often minority) neighborhoods. He increased funding to historically black colleges. He instituted prison reform to shorten sentences for non-violent offenders. If anything, peopl…

He is ruining the internet though with his removal of net neutrality, which has a lot to do with the article's critiques of internet access companies.

Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by ashneo76 »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #68
cortesoft wrote: post #8

This article basically describes how the current internet was created.... why would this new internet end up any different? You can't expect every person to be skilled enough (and with the time and desire) to be their own network administrator, so someone will have to run the network for those people... and they will need to be compensated for that work... and some people will be really good at running that network,…

>why would this new internet end up any different? I think the main advantage we have today is the hindsight of the past 25+ years. >What would be different this time around if we started from scratch? I think instead of one big Internet we'd build a bunch of smaller, trusted intranets, and provide controlled access via something like a web-of-trust system. >You can't expect every person to be skilled enough (and wit…

I couldn't have put this better. I feel more empowered to run my own infra for my tribe

Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by rmrfstar »

dnautics wrote: post #78

Perhaps this is self-serving of me, since I want to build a product like this, but: I think honestly the problem is that these systems are not consumer-oriented products. I think there is a real desire by people to not have to live as rentiers in the digital marketplace, but there are not really products that cater to that. IMO There's a place for something that merges a NAS, with some sort of overlay over current IP…

If I was going to do this in a weekend, I would avoid the NAS device. "The ecosystem is moving", availability, etc.

Build a simple system around "content groups", something that people will put in the same mental category as "group chats". Each "content group" has a LUKS encrypted filesystem somewhere in the cloud. Keys are exchanged using Megolm and Matrix rooms. The filesystems are mounted via sshfs and decrypted locally. The "pin" is replaced by membership in a Matrix room.

The cloud never sees the LUKS key, and the tagging is done locally. The cloud back-end can be changed using the Matrix control channel, so you're not locked in to one vendor.

I really don't think people will buy in though. At this point, no one cares if their whole life story is recorded by FAAMG.

Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by lmm »

shp0ngle wrote: post #65

That reminds me of GNU/Net (or GNUNet? I don't remember.) An attempt to make all layers of the internet again, on GNU software or something. And it is a forever vaporware. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUnet https://gnunet.org/en/index.html

I remember downloading files off it 10 years ago. So it can't be vaporware in the classic sense.

Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by Triv888 »

bullen wrote: post #89
pryelluw wrote: post #12

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That site has no links. Do you have more info?

Not yet, I'm busy making a 3D MMO engine/game from scratch: http://talk.binarytask.com/task?id=5959519327505901449 Also hesitating between Java and C for the reference implementation. Also waiting for better hardware: LoRa is too closed and Zero uses too much energy! The radio + screen + controls PCB should be one HAT. No point in using a IPS screen that small, better would be a persistent state screen like memory LC…

https://revspace.nl/DecodingLora

Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by mro_name »

dnautics wrote: post #78

Perhaps this is self-serving of me, since I want to build a product like this, but: I think honestly the problem is that these systems are not consumer-oriented products. I think there is a real desire by people to not have to live as rentiers in the digital marketplace, but there are not really products that cater to that. IMO There's a place for something that merges a NAS, with some sort of overlay over current IP…

indeed!

My take on self-hosted services (not infrasructure, though) is layperson-friendlyness. See https://mro.name/ShaarliGo#install--update or the 5min talk I did a while ago: https://txt.mro.name/34c3 (that page isn't layperson-friendly, but you'll make it)

anyone?

Re: Winning back the Internet by building our own

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Post by nitrogen »

dnautics wrote: post #91
Nbox9 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at Western Digital’s My Cloud? It’s more or less what you described.

thanks! This looks pretty cool, I'll test it out for competition analysis. There's features i'd want (like pluggable applications) but it looks nice.

Pogoplug used to be something like a personal cloud, but it looks like it's now an online backup service. There's also OwnCloud. I haven't tried either.
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