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The Economics of Christmas Trees

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Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

#111
I have a 2 yr old and I want him to have a brilliant childhood.

But we're not having a pine tree taking up space (we live a in 2bdr apartment), dying and making a mess for no good reason.

But then, there are so many Xmas things that don't make sense in Australia.

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

#112
Interesting how this is not very much like the petroleum value chain, where the primary producers (oil+gas exploration companies) reap nearly all of the net profit.

I wonder if it's because retailers hold a lot of pricing power, and it's a quickly expiring asset, and many producers, and localized markets.

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

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post #90

Timely. We just, as in a few hours ago, wrapped up our season as owners of a u-cut tree farm. It's relatively small, just under 30 acres. But our family was just doing a post-mortem on what went well, what we need to change and making fairly detailed plans for next year and even several years out. I can tell you more then you want to know about the growing, spring/summer and fall care. The shaping. The labor to trim,…

Are attractions at tree farms (that is to say, everything aside from trees) typically first-party (you) or external contractors?

I'd be fascinated in the experience value-add economics.

Said as someone who today bought a U-Cut 8' cypress ($56) at a local tree farm, a train ride (2x $2), baling ($2), three drinks + brownie + boiled peanuts (~$12). Thankfully, letting two quarantine-bored teenagers ride in the back of my truck around the farm was free. ;-)

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

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post #109
post #90

Timely. We just, as in a few hours ago, wrapped up our season as owners of a u-cut tree farm. It's relatively small, just under 30 acres. But our family was just doing a post-mortem on what went well, what we need to change and making fairly detailed plans for next year and even several years out. I can tell you more then you want to know about the growing, spring/summer and fall care. The shaping. The labor to trim,…

Successful season I assume? Seems like it's over early!

Related to this, how do repeat-customers play in? I'm that a major target?

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

#115
post #90

Timely. We just, as in a few hours ago, wrapped up our season as owners of a u-cut tree farm. It's relatively small, just under 30 acres. But our family was just doing a post-mortem on what went well, what we need to change and making fairly detailed plans for next year and even several years out. I can tell you more then you want to know about the growing, spring/summer and fall care. The shaping. The labor to trim,…

Do you make more money from tree sales or complementary experience sales? Like hot cider, etc.

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

#116
post #90

Timely. We just, as in a few hours ago, wrapped up our season as owners of a u-cut tree farm. It's relatively small, just under 30 acres. But our family was just doing a post-mortem on what went well, what we need to change and making fairly detailed plans for next year and even several years out. I can tell you more then you want to know about the growing, spring/summer and fall care. The shaping. The labor to trim,…

Is theft/security an issue for you? Mature Christmas trees must be one of the highest-value crops you can steal from a farm, and one of the easiest to fence.

>Mature Christmas trees must be one of the highest-value crops you can steal from a farm

If you have the equipment/motivation to steal christmas trees, you probably could be stealing animals too. Those are proabbly worth even more than christmas trees, probably several hundred dollars each.

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

#117
post #4

This is a great article.

I wish they explored the ACTA claims that artificial Christmas trees are more environmentally friendly than real trees. Artificial trees are made from PVC and the by products of PVC manufacturing are highly toxic and historically highly polluting. In order for that claim to be true under China's lax regulatory environment, either they have some revolutionary new method of producing PVC or farming Christmas trees is h…

But trees or rotting trees can produce methane. Depends on tree variety, location, transport, and disposal.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170330190304.h...

As a heuristic, the amount you spend is approximately the damage, unless you know a lot about where the money is going. E.g. if there is a retailer involved then 50% of environmental damage is invariant.

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

#118
post #52

Has anyone tried selling the plots in advance? Pay e.g. $49 today for a tree in ten years?

For that matter, I assume there are christmas tree futures being traded?

Probably not, otherwise the dip in production after 2008 wouldn't have happened.

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

#119
I bought a tree farm in Oregon in '98 after it had been clearcut. I debated between replanting it with christmas trees vs. timber and I couldn't see how christmas trees penciled out so I'm growing timber. The article mentions $60 for a tree, but here in Oregon I see many lots featuring $35 - $45.

Re: The Economics of Christmas Trees

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post #16

I run a Christmas tree farm at a small scale. I wonder if real Christmas trees are actually worse for the environment than fake trees as many real Christmas trees are burned rather than sent to a landfill?

Around here (NYC) the Sanitation Department collects them and turns them into mulch for the parks. It's a great way to recycle them without burning.
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