And billions of profits go to owners and shareholders, while developers crunch 80 hours/week for $2000-3000/month.
Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#12What is even more baffling to me is the sheer rage and lack of humanity of fans towards the developers when they delayed it several times. There was a lot of hate including death threats to the developers. I understand the internet brings out the worst in people but I can't imagine anyone desiring to be a game developer at this point.
Given that the promotional strategy seems to have focused on engaging the GamerGate portion of their fanbase, I’d say it’s not baffling at all. https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/4/22058784/cyberpunk-2077-ma...
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#13What is even more baffling to me is the sheer rage and lack of humanity of fans towards the developers when they delayed it several times. There was a lot of hate including death threats to the developers. I understand the internet brings out the worst in people but I can't imagine anyone desiring to be a game developer at this point.
It's not like every fan was acting like that. "We've received death threats" has become a tool to try and change the topic from whatever made people upset.
That not everybody does it doesn't make it any more acceptable, or makes rightfully complaining about it any more unacceptable.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#14They said crunch was happening in October. Why is it news again now?
According to the article, the crunch has reportedly been going on for more than a year.
IF that's true, then CDPR's claims about only crunching for the last two or so months isn't as transparent as they wanted it to seem back in October.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#15Polygon hates CDPR, episode CVXII:
Video game production involves crunch, news at eleven.
See also https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/4/22058784/cyberpunk-2077-ma...
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#16What is even more baffling to me is the sheer rage and lack of humanity of fans towards the developers when they delayed it several times. There was a lot of hate including death threats to the developers. I understand the internet brings out the worst in people but I can't imagine anyone desiring to be a game developer at this point.
While video gaming has gone mainstream, plenty of marginalized individuals that are poorly socialized still rely on games as an escape.
Some, at the very ends of the bell curve, are enraged and simultaneously not equipped with the tools to process that in a healthy way.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#17> While long hours would be permitted for those interested in working them, crunch would not be made “mandatory.”
Yeah, I'm sure that works well. How can you compete with those that do work long hours when it comes time for performance reviews? The fear of losing your job is very real and I'm sure that creates a culture where in effect everyone is working long hours, no matter what the CD Projekt co-founder says.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#18The video game industry needs to learn from the film industry and unionize for better pay and working conditions.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#19What is even more baffling to me is the sheer rage and lack of humanity of fans towards the developers when they delayed it several times. There was a lot of hate including death threats to the developers. I understand the internet brings out the worst in people but I can't imagine anyone desiring to be a game developer at this point.
The delays were sheer incompetence and are far from normal in the gaming industry. You don't guarantee to fans personally that the game will definitely come out at a date (which is less than a month away) then delay it the next day. This indicates that nobody even knew how bad it was. There's also rumors developers found out about the delays from social media. CDPR execs are just incompetent and unable to set realist…
Who cares? It’s a game. Incompetence or not, harassing and threatening devs is not okay.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite past promises
#20What is even more baffling to me is the sheer rage and lack of humanity of fans towards the developers when they delayed it several times. There was a lot of hate including death threats to the developers. I understand the internet brings out the worst in people but I can't imagine anyone desiring to be a game developer at this point.
> There was a lot of hate including death threats to the developers
Hate is cheap on Twitter