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The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Correct, gossipy comments from throwaway accounts do not have any credibility. Being apparently correct in this instance doesn't change that.

no one on here has credibility due to the anonymous nature of this site.

People develop and possess credibility under pseudonyms all the time.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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post #41

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On a flagged and down-voted into oblivion comment. A small taste of what sharing hard truths here at HN is often like. There's also the twin concepts of tact and good taste. If someone wants to dig into a dead person's dark side, go ahead. But not immediately after his death. There's nothing wrong with a little restraint. It's not like knowing bad things about him two weeks later changes anything at all.

>>There's nothing wrong with a little restraint. There is nothing wrong with a little truth or facts either...the guy is dead, he won't be offended.

Creating a burner just to make this comment is arguing against yourself.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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post #67
post #62

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Correct, gossipy comments from throwaway accounts do not have any credibility. Being apparently correct in this instance doesn't change that.

no one on here has credibility due to the anonymous nature of this site.

Many people are not anonymous on here. (that said I would have found posting that in bad taste even from someone that could be placed 100% as probably being in the know)

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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I would love it if dang could weigh in on this tough issue. There were a number of people being downvoted asking questions about how this could have happened, and now to see that someone posted the true answer and it was flagged and hidden, that I think reflects poorly on HN and warrants an explanation. I'll never forget at my first friend's funeral when his mother said during the eulogy "My son was a drug addict." I…

"If she can do that and do it in a positive way then I think an Internet forum could do it too. " You just compared an Internet forum to a grieving mother. Not the right comparison by a longshot. Allowing a publication run by professional journalists ( they follow a code of ethics) to share news is slightly better than internet forum participants to share their opinions on such a sensitive topic.

I think you have an overly favorable opinion of “journalists” (while I think WSJ is full of good ones, most publications are not).

But that being said, I agree there are lots of bad ways to handle this sort of thing on public forums (see numerous Reddit failures). But there’s gotta be something better and more positive than to bury the truth.

They were not sharing opinions they were sharing the facts.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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I am a recovering nitrous oxide addict who once set himself on fire, so I understand the terrible predicament he found himself in. Many people do nitrous recreationally as a party drug, but there's a reason they call it 'hippie crack.' Some become obsessed with it

I have done nitrous before - what about it makes you more likely to be set on fire? Just risk of passing out while smoking a cigarette maybe?

It's an oxidiser; it can make things which are normally not flammable become flammable, as well as accelerate burning.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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I couldn’t think of a better year for this advice.

How is that so? I couldn't live in quarantine without having an Internet connection. There's a limit to how many books one can read.

thousands of generations of humans existed without it before you.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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post #73
post #67

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no one on here has credibility due to the anonymous nature of this site.

Many people are not anonymous on here. (that said I would have found posting that in bad taste even from someone that could be placed 100% as probably being in the know)

I don’t think something in bad taste needs to be censored. Just my take.

It’s the difference between taking a comment with a grain of salt and saying “no one can read this because we can’t prove it.”

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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I am a recovering nitrous oxide addict who once set himself on fire, so I understand the terrible predicament he found himself in. Many people do nitrous recreationally as a party drug, but there's a reason they call it 'hippie crack.' Some become obsessed with it

I have done nitrous before - what about it makes you more likely to be set on fire? Just risk of passing out while smoking a cigarette maybe?

I used to crack a bunch of cartridges into a large plastic bag such as an outdoor trash bag. I didn't realize N2O was an accelerant so I was smoking. The tip of the cig fell on the bag and it went up in a flash. Fortunately it burned quickly and only singed me.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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post #67
post #62

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Correct, gossipy comments from throwaway accounts do not have any credibility. Being apparently correct in this instance doesn't change that.

no one on here has credibility due to the anonymous nature of this site.

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