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The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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I couldn’t think of a better year for this advice.

How is that so? I couldn't live in quarantine without having an Internet connection. There's a limit to how many books one can read.

Only because it’s hard to buy new ones with the bookstore closed.

If you were online you could order anything you want.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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I am a recovering nitrous oxide addict who once set himself on fire, so I understand the terrible predicament he found himself in. Many people do nitrous recreationally as a party drug, but there's a reason they call it 'hippie crack.' Some become obsessed with it

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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On a flagged and down-voted into oblivion comment, no less. A small taste of what sharing hard truths here at HN is often becoming like. I hope we can rise above this and allow discussion, even topics we don't think we need to hear.

"Sharing hard truths" without credible backup should be flagged when it's personal information like that. Gossip and tawdry accusations don't have a place in a community devoted to responsible discourse, especially because lies spread faster than the truth. Having the same conversation now rather than right in the heat of things is fine.

> Having the same conversation now rather than right in the heat of things is fine.

Why? I don't think people should arbitrarily decide when other people should have the conversation. What if some people think it's never the right time? Should we never talk about it?

How about this, people should be allowed to have conversations about anything at the time of their choosing? Do we really need a moral police to tell us when we can communicate with each other? Nobody should force you to participate in a conversation and certainly you shouldn't prevent others from participating in a conversation.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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RIP. It's really sad. Mental health problems are often dismissed or not caught in time. I read his book "Delivering Happiness" after I heard about his death and before reading this article about mental health problems. As I read it I saw some interesting stories and ideas about the businesses that he built but I also read stories which put way too much focus (imho) on various nights and parties which don't really rel…

> Which don't really relate to entrepreneurship or business

To some extend, but startup events generally combine exactly those things (without the drugs, depending on where it is).

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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The singer, Jewel who was a friend sounded an alarm in August https://people.com/music/jewel-wrote-to-tony-hsieh-before-hi... She's pretty credible.

She sounds like someone that actually cared about him. It’s terrible that someone who seemed like a genuinely kind person ended up surrounded by sycophants taking advantage of his wealth and encouraging his drug issues. "I am going to be blunt," she wrote in the letter, obtained by Forbes. "I need to tell you that I don’t think you are well and in your right mind. I think you are taking too many drugs that cause you…

Indeed and thus life is hard whether your poor or rich, especially for those who suddenly get mega wealthly or fame. They seem to cant handle it very well from Michael Jackson to Whitney Houston to Tony to many others.

A lot of us I imagine wanted to be in Tony's position, yet would you still want to be him with how it all went down? His mega-wealth and fame of wealth seem to be his un-doing.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Some of the speculation in this thread [1], originally flagged as hearsay, seems to be confirmed by this article, namely his use of nitrous oxide. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25235843

I would love it if dang could weigh in on this tough issue. There were a number of people being downvoted asking questions about how this could have happened, and now to see that someone posted the true answer and it was flagged and hidden, that I think reflects poorly on HN and warrants an explanation.

I'll never forget at my first friend's funeral when his mother said during the eulogy "My son was a drug addict." It was so heartbreaking but so important to speak the truth and be open about it in order to pay respect to him and call out for action so that more mom's don't have to make that speech.

She did not bury the truth and "wait out of respect", she confronted it head on. If she can do that and do it in a positive way then I think an Internet forum could do it too. The truth is it seems if it weren't for a few of Tony's friends sharing the whole story, the truth may have been buried and many more may have gone down that path.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The singer, Jewel who was a friend sounded an alarm in August https://people.com/music/jewel-wrote-to-tony-hsieh-before-hi... She's pretty credible.

She sounds like someone that actually cared about him. It’s terrible that someone who seemed like a genuinely kind person ended up surrounded by sycophants taking advantage of his wealth and encouraging his drug issues. "I am going to be blunt," she wrote in the letter, obtained by Forbes. "I need to tell you that I don’t think you are well and in your right mind. I think you are taking too many drugs that cause you…

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Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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post #57
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Some of the speculation in this thread [1], originally flagged as hearsay, seems to be confirmed by this article, namely his use of nitrous oxide. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25235843

I would love it if dang could weigh in on this tough issue. There were a number of people being downvoted asking questions about how this could have happened, and now to see that someone posted the true answer and it was flagged and hidden, that I think reflects poorly on HN and warrants an explanation. I'll never forget at my first friend's funeral when his mother said during the eulogy "My son was a drug addict." I…

Speculating about the circumstances of someone's death can be in poor taste even if some of the speculation turns out to be correct.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Some of the speculation in this thread [1], originally flagged as hearsay, seems to be confirmed by this article, namely his use of nitrous oxide. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25235843

I would love it if dang could weigh in on this tough issue. There were a number of people being downvoted asking questions about how this could have happened, and now to see that someone posted the true answer and it was flagged and hidden, that I think reflects poorly on HN and warrants an explanation. I'll never forget at my first friend's funeral when his mother said during the eulogy "My son was a drug addict." I…

A relative talking about it at the funeral is quite different than anonymous claims that are impossible to (dis)prove within hours of the death.
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