The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior • Hacker News Board

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by wgjordan » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:02 PM UTC

da39a3ee wrote: post #16

da39a3ee wrote: post #13

https://archive.is/SkjZg

Um, downvotes? Are you saying that that link is not to the full contents of the article? Or are you saying that you think it is bad to give people access to data? Or are you saying that one should not circumvent the paywall of the WSJ because it is stealing?

Thanks for the link. For the downvoters, note that HN allows posts to paywalled articles only if they have a workaround, and users usually post workarounds in the comment thread.

See:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by fortran77 » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:04 PM UTC

da39a3ee wrote: post #16

da39a3ee wrote: post #13

https://archive.is/SkjZg

Um, downvotes? Are you saying that that link is not to the full contents of the article? Or are you saying that you think it is bad to give people access to data? Or are you saying that one should not circumvent the paywall of the WSJ because it is stealing?

> But please don't post complaints about paywalls.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by freefaler » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:07 PM UTC

da39a3ee wrote: post #16

da39a3ee wrote: post #13

https://archive.is/SkjZg

Um, downvotes? Are you saying that that link is not to the full contents of the article? Or are you saying that you think it is bad to give people access to data? Or are you saying that one should not circumvent the paywall of the WSJ because it is stealing?

thanks for the link da39a3ee, it's appreciated.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by s5300 » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:13 PM UTC

This is so incredibly saddening. Some people seem to truly be too kind and empathetic to cope with this modern world. I'll be forever wondering why he didn't make an extreme decision to do something such as literally disappearing into rural nowhere Asia/Europe or somewhere and attempt to live the simplest of lifestyles for some time. I want to think something of that nature may have helped reset things a bit, but what do I know. Life is so incredibly grueling for those that wish to help others so much as he seemed to want to in our now completely globalized and arguably scarily downtrending world.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by sergiomattei » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:16 PM UTC

da39a3ee wrote: post #16

da39a3ee wrote: post #13

https://archive.is/SkjZg

Um, downvotes? Are you saying that that link is not to the full contents of the article? Or are you saying that you think it is bad to give people access to data? Or are you saying that one should not circumvent the paywall of the WSJ because it is stealing?

Thanks for the link! Much appreciated.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by tempsy » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:17 PM UTC

As an aside: I hadn't bought anything off Zappos for years, and checked it out when the news hit and surprised that it still basically looks the same as I remember it maybe 10+ years ago. Certainly looks and feels like an eCommerce website from the late 2000s/early 2010s.

I'm curious if this was an intentional choice or a sign the website has been on cruise control since the acquisition. It certainly makes me wonder what Hsieh was doing as CEO as late as this summer either way, which is to say while he was certainly a pioneer in the 2000s I'm not sure what about Zappos in the 10+ years post-acquisition feels cutting edge.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by ssalazar » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:20 PM UTC

da39a3ee wrote: post #13

https://archive.is/SkjZg

Captcha is cutoff/ unable to be completed on mobile :|

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by underseacables » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:21 PM UTC

Careful, this community does not like it when you tear down their heroes.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by paul7986 » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:25 PM UTC

v64 wrote: post #14

Some of the speculation in this thread [1], originally flagged as hearsay, seems to be confirmed by this article, namely his use of nitrous oxide. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25235843

The singer, Jewel who was a friend sounded an alarm in August https://people.com/music/jewel-wrote-to-tony-hsieh-before-hi...

She's pretty credible.

Re: The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior

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Post by disordinary » Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 10:29 PM UTC

Oh crap, I had no idea he'd died - I met him once when he was on his happiness tour, really interesting, genuinely nice, and driven guy. He took the idea of selling shoes and somehow morphed it into spreading happiness including touring it to markets that Zapos didn't operate in (like NZ where I met him), which obviously had limited direct benefit to his company. Only really visionary people would be able to pull off something like that and connect those dots.

I also met someone who grew up with him, he said that Tony was always looking at everything with an entrepreneurial eye. Anything and everything would be a business, even bringing in a grill to sell burgers to his class mates at lunch.

Big loss of a visionary.