The Death of Tony Hsieh: A Spiral of Alcohol, Drugs and Extreme Behavior
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#4"“Ultimately happiness is really just about enjoying life,” he wrote in the 2010 book..."
This is often what you hear from someone who has doesn't have much of a sense of higher calling, or doesn't quite know what to do with his capabilities other than go for satisfaction in the short term. And leaves you feeling empty and unsure of what your life should be when work evaporates as your sense of self?
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#6It is sad that Tony Hsieh didn’t get the help that he needed and instead tried to self medicate in order to get away from all that. This recurrent story where extremely intelligent people are battling mental health issues and cannot speak out because the stigma behind this issue is too damaging is why we need to normalize the discourse around mental health if we want to avoid this type of tragedies. I’m not actively suffering (and am not as bright as Tony) but had some bouts of depression and hypomania in the past and know how afraid I was to let anyone official (eg. at work, school) know about my suffering because once out it always trails you like a cloud and will always deem you inferior to others. Luckily I was able to escape the black hole and have been good and calm for about 10 years and learned to never slip into that again. But there’s a remnant fear of a possibility of going back to it. Along with that there is the fear of falling begind, loosing job, becoming isolated and homelessness. This fear is clearly exacerbated in the US where one or a few slip-ups turns everything into an ever accelerating down-spiral. Tony had so much more to loose as his cliff was much higher than an ordinary person. He could have seeked professional help and he probably did but too late in the game. Had we not have this stigma around, he and others could get the help early on when much more could be done.
Self-medication with drugs works temporarily but its abuse is clearly a quick path to compelte madness and early death. I personally stay away from drugs except from an ocasional puff of weed, the once a decade or two experience with LSD and the weekend bottle of beer.
Rest in peace Tony, you will be missed
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#7Sounds like he was rebelling hardcore against an overly restrictive, maybe typical (?), 1st generation immigrant parent background? "“Ultimately happiness is really just about enjoying life,” he wrote in the 2010 book..." This is often what you hear from someone who has doesn't have much of a sense of higher calling, or doesn't quite know what to do with his capabilities other than go for satisfaction in the short te…
Having come from a similar background, where the childhood abuse was real and looking back on my life I realize how much of my stress to succeed and achieve was really an attempt to appease/show up my parents. Addiction to work and "bad" habits was all a part of the response to that childhood abuse.
Like I wrote in one of my tweets [1], Gabor Mate's work has helped me to see and work towards reworking my relationship to stress.
It's unfortunate that Gabor Mate's work isn't part of our conversion around addiction, stress, crime and suicide.
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#8Sounds like he was rebelling hardcore against an overly restrictive, maybe typical (?), 1st generation immigrant parent background? "“Ultimately happiness is really just about enjoying life,” he wrote in the 2010 book..." This is often what you hear from someone who has doesn't have much of a sense of higher calling, or doesn't quite know what to do with his capabilities other than go for satisfaction in the short te…
You might just be on the money. Having come from a similar background, where the childhood abuse was real and looking back on my life I realize how much of my stress to succeed and achieve was really an attempt to appease/show up my parents. Addiction to work and "bad" habits was all a part of the response to that childhood abuse. Like I wrote in one of my tweets [1], Gabor Mate's work has helped me to see and work t…
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You might just be on the money. Having come from a similar background, where the childhood abuse was real and looking back on my life I realize how much of my stress to succeed and achieve was really an attempt to appease/show up my parents. Addiction to work and "bad" habits was all a part of the response to that childhood abuse. Like I wrote in one of my tweets [1], Gabor Mate's work has helped me to see and work t…
Is there a particular book of Dr. Mate’s that you recommend?