'Steal everything' era of hacking
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'Steal everything' era of hacking
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Re: 'Steal everything' era of hacking
#2Ah well, the same thing all over again. The hacker/cracker distinction is sadly never going to be mitigated, and the press doesn't know/care enough to change the way they report these things. The words hacker and cyber criminal are used interchangeably in this article (and just about any article on this topic). Sad, particularly for those of us who happen to be reading Hacker News.
Re: 'Steal everything' era of hacking
#3Ah well, the same thing all over again. The hacker/cracker distinction is sadly never going to be mitigated, and the press doesn't know/care enough to change the way they report these things. The words hacker and cyber criminal are used interchangeably in this article (and just about any article on this topic). Sad, particularly for those of us who happen to be reading Hacker News .
Maybe we need to follow the lessons from another article on the BBC site, and "reclaim the word" - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13333013
(Note - not an otherwise Hacker related link)
Re: 'Steal everything' era of hacking
#4Ah well, the same thing all over again. The hacker/cracker distinction is sadly never going to be mitigated, and the press doesn't know/care enough to change the way they report these things. The words hacker and cyber criminal are used interchangeably in this article (and just about any article on this topic). Sad, particularly for those of us who happen to be reading Hacker News .
Everyone really needs to get over this point. No news organization was ever going to use the word cracker. I could see the headline now, "Two Crackers Attack Bank." That wouldn't go over well.
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#5> The hack, which has led to the network being unavailable for over a week, has left observers wondering if a company as vast and seemingly advanced as Sony can get hit, who out there is safe?
Thank you, Dave Lee, for revealing early on in the article that you don't understand the subject matter and that the article won't be worth reading.
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#6Is the PSN network breach really about savvy criminals or more about corner-cutting businesses?
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#7> "Your online banking site is much more sophisticated."
> A bank would usually use two-factor authentication, where you've not just got a password.
Your bank is secure because they keep their network patched and do secure coding, not because they use 2 factor authentication. PSN would get hacked even if they were using 234 factor authentication.
Re: 'Steal everything' era of hacking
#8Ah well, the same thing all over again. The hacker/cracker distinction is sadly never going to be mitigated, and the press doesn't know/care enough to change the way they report these things. The words hacker and cyber criminal are used interchangeably in this article (and just about any article on this topic). Sad, particularly for those of us who happen to be reading Hacker News .
This problem started in the 80s, if not earlier. The original MIT "hacker" definition morphed into a definition used by the medial and the public to refer to the cyber criminals of the time. And along with this evolution in the definition came people lamenting the change and railing against the media.
Flash forward three decades and hackers are still using a term to mean one thing while the media and the public are still firmly entrenched in the cyber criminal definition.
Now, which definition was in use by the media when Hacker News was born?
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#9The article, and even the sources, seems to get the issues backwards, when arguing that the availability of the PSN vs. an online banking site makes it more vulnerable, and then goes on to talk about authentication measures.
If your password is "pwnd" on PSN, you expect no sympathy if your account is compromised, also it very likely matters quite little (also, you can very rarely read your credit card details back from a compromised account). No so for your bank account, so the bank enforces obnoxious security on you.
But this isn't what happened, this attack didn't go through the front end. PSN could have required fingerprints on every login, and they would have been no more safe for it.
Re: 'Steal everything' era of hacking
#10> "Your online banking site is much more sophisticated." > A bank would usually use two-factor authentication, where you've not just got a password. Your bank is secure because they keep their network patched and do secure coding, not because they use 2 factor authentication. PSN would get hacked even if they were using 234 factor authentication.
> even if they were using 234 factor authentication
Probably not, but mostly because nobody would be using them then, so there'd be no data to steal :)