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An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

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Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

#21

Post by barbegal »

Airbnb has insurance that covers $500. Anything more expensive is your responsibility. To expect them to have insurance that covers more would be a waste of money to customers on a budget. Either get insurance that covers your expensive belongings (and accept that it will cost a lot because your belongings might not be securely locked up all the time) or securely lock up your expensive stuff.

It is unclear that the host secured the property to the standard required by airbnb and their insurance but that would be a matter between airbnb and the host not between the host and guest.

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

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Post by kamera »

Imagine your thought would be more like:

"huh what made a fellow human go so far to steal from an AirBnB rental in Las Vegas on Thanksgiving?

We should make sure that education and social support are so strong that this is not an issue.

But hey, its just easier to try to solve it the other way around right? You can develop your face detection and human beeing tracking skynet from your nice SF home with your nice gear and let the policy handle those animals.

I don't think this is easy for anyone dont' get me wrong but even myself i'm sometimes envy of the neighbours greener gras while i'm off very very well and i'm very torn if thats fair or not. Im still egoistic enough that i'm not giving my stuff away and still being smart about my money, but at least im living in a much more social country.

People in the usa should perhaps start to solve the real hard problems. 128 place in the global peace index is not very good https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

Ah and just a tip for every traveler: Take only what you need, always look it away or have it on you.

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

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Post by kamera »

baby wrote: post #8

It’s unfortunate, and Airbnb makes enough in service fee that they should be faster to help on these cases. Once I was in SF and my Airbnb cancelled on me right at check-in time. I was tired, had luggages, I just went to the hilton and checked-in. It was really hard and I had to argue but Airbnb ended up reimbursing me. Still, I’m scared about the next time I’ll run in troubles with Airbnb. I find it more and more ex…

funny right?

On one side you have a real hotel businses, with clear cleaning standards, proper managers and personel. With experience, with save rooms, room standards etc.

But you prefer to go with Airbnb while writing stuff like "Still, I’m scared about the next time I’ll run in troubles with Airbnb."

How about you accept the fact, that AirBnB works because it strips all that stuff, which makes hotels more expensive and more favourable, out of it?

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

#24

Post by burnthrow »

WhoIsSatoshi wrote: post #18

Sorry for your experience. Interesting post, chilling thoughts at the end: > When I sit in front of the computer in San Francisco, the only thing that comes to my mind is to build a Face Recognition system and check the burglar’s face in it. Something similar to Clearview. Machine Learning is my expertise; creating such a system is straightforward but will take some time. Tempting. Thinking about it. The thought my p…

Did you expect nuance from the "Kaggle Grandmaster" who's too thick to secure valuables in a not-quite-hotel? Between travelling to another state to Friendsgiving during the pandemic, and having zero awareness that his destination city's economy's been shattered by said pandemic, then getting jacked by locals... maybe he should grow some awareness.

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

#25

Post by strstr »

WhoIsSatoshi wrote: post #18

Sorry for your experience. Interesting post, chilling thoughts at the end: > When I sit in front of the computer in San Francisco, the only thing that comes to my mind is to build a Face Recognition system and check the burglar’s face in it. Something similar to Clearview. Machine Learning is my expertise; creating such a system is straightforward but will take some time. Tempting. Thinking about it. The thought my p…

It’s terrifying, but somewhat natural. They feel violated. AirBnB gives them a pittance. The police say they don’t think they will catch the crooks. The host shrugs their shoulders and moves on.

The author is looking for an alternative, even if it’s somewhat dark. Ideally, AirBnB would either provide or mandate insurance for situations like this, but they can probably increase profits by allowing this type of bad situation to hit a small minority of customers.

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

#26

Post by kilroy123 »

I rented an airbnb in Porto, Portugal and went to bed early one night. Someone broken in around 12 am and attempted to come into the apartment. I jumped up and ran to the door and stopped them. They clearly had the keys some how because that was door number three to open and get through. Really sketchy.

Airbnb was at least cool and gave me a refund and let me move. However, two weeks later I checked and the same apartment was for rent! It's clear someone who worked for the owner had a set of keys and was robbing the guests.

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

#27

Post by kamera »

sneak wrote: post #4

Personally, I don't trust panes of glass or rental doors (where anyone could have copied keys) to keep my belongings safe. I have a small backpack that always contains my laptops and cameras, and it comes everywhere with me when I am traveling. I don't leave it at the hotel, I don't leave it in the airbnb, and I don't leave it in the car. (Remember, the trunk of the car is one smashed window and four seconds away fro…

My mother was always very persistent in stuff like 'when you put your bag down you keep it close and in the inside of the table not on the aisle side. If she would get money from, one of us would walk between her and her bag.

I still do all those things, i don't think its hard to do, my wife though had to learn through me that you carry your bag back with both strips and not casual with one as it makes it much easier to just grab it.

I believe, while you can always be the target, the reason why so much stuff is stolen on holiday is simply because a lot of peple don't know and don't care.

I walk through a crowd of people, and i spot tons of people around me i would probably steal of before i would even consider that one dude having everything close on him.

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

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Post by burnthrow »

barbegal wrote: post #21

Airbnb has insurance that covers $500. Anything more expensive is your responsibility. To expect them to have insurance that covers more would be a waste of money to customers on a budget. Either get insurance that covers your expensive belongings (and accept that it will cost a lot because your belongings might not be securely locked up all the time) or securely lock up your expensive stuff. It is unclear that the h…

> We interpreted the email as: “We will compensate up to $500 per stolen item”.

Just about fell out of my chair at this one. They expected a blank check?

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

#29

Post by burnthrow »

strstr wrote: post #25
WhoIsSatoshi wrote: post #18

Sorry for your experience. Interesting post, chilling thoughts at the end: > When I sit in front of the computer in San Francisco, the only thing that comes to my mind is to build a Face Recognition system and check the burglar’s face in it. Something similar to Clearview. Machine Learning is my expertise; creating such a system is straightforward but will take some time. Tempting. Thinking about it. The thought my p…

It’s terrifying, but somewhat natural. They feel violated. AirBnB gives them a pittance. The police say they don’t think they will catch the crooks. The host shrugs their shoulders and moves on. The author is looking for an alternative, even if it’s somewhat dark. Ideally, AirBnB would either provide or mandate insurance for situations like this, but they can probably increase profits by allowing this type of bad sit…

> would either provide or mandate insurance

No hotel does this. They clearly state that your possessions are solely your responsibility. Some may provide a small safe for valuables.

Re: An Airbnb Thanksgiving Burglary

#30

Post by enos_feedler »

strstr wrote: post #25
WhoIsSatoshi wrote: post #18

Sorry for your experience. Interesting post, chilling thoughts at the end: > When I sit in front of the computer in San Francisco, the only thing that comes to my mind is to build a Face Recognition system and check the burglar’s face in it. Something similar to Clearview. Machine Learning is my expertise; creating such a system is straightforward but will take some time. Tempting. Thinking about it. The thought my p…

It’s terrifying, but somewhat natural. They feel violated. AirBnB gives them a pittance. The police say they don’t think they will catch the crooks. The host shrugs their shoulders and moves on. The author is looking for an alternative, even if it’s somewhat dark. Ideally, AirBnB would either provide or mandate insurance for situations like this, but they can probably increase profits by allowing this type of bad sit…

I agree somewhat natural. Sometimes it is just bad luck and there isn’t a next step or something we should be doing. Just keep using Airbnb and hope it doesn’t happen again. Thats what I would do.
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