Only a matter of time before we are expected to take drugs to be better at our jobs.
We're all on caffeine already and no one is clutching pearls over it. How is taking harder drugs any different other than in effectiveness?
Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
21–30 of 151 posts
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#22[deleted]
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#23When I was a child and teen I was a hyperactive, unstimulated, bored, D- student. Ritalin drastically changed that and I was getting A's and teachers described me as a whole different person. I would too: it made me antisocial and jittery and basically robbed me of my humanity. Since then I've found drug-free strategies to manage my intellectual/social Jekyll and Hyde. The idea of performance enhancing drugs making t…
As a counter point I was a hyperactive unstimulated student that went onto Concerta and haven't looked back. When I'm off my meds I'm angry and mean and constantly frustrated by how slowly everything moves. I enjoy being able to relax and take things easier due to this stimulant. But I think that's a big problem with over prescription of stimulants, a lot of folks that get put on them don't need them and don't respond to them in the intended manner - but healthcare is such that no one ever takes them off of them and tries other approaches.
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you share some of these strategies?
This might be the third or fourth time I've been asked so I'm going to write about it on my website tomorrow and share it here once I'm done. Apologies.
I'm interested too; feeling described to a T by your post. I struggled heavily with focus issues as a child / teen but it was never diagnosed far enough to try and medicate me out of it. As an adult with improved awareness of my attention issues, the prospect of pursuing a prescriptive fix that might just make me feel worse is intimidating.
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#25When I was a child and teen I was a hyperactive, unstimulated, bored, D- student. Ritalin drastically changed that and I was getting A's and teachers described me as a whole different person. I would too: it made me antisocial and jittery and basically robbed me of my humanity. Since then I've found drug-free strategies to manage my intellectual/social Jekyll and Hyde. The idea of performance enhancing drugs making t…
When you got off Ritalin, did you find yourself more emotional and “feeling” more pain? I think the fear of this keeps most people on Ritalin/Adderall/Concerta/Vyvanse, etc.
I can't comment on the OPs experience but I was on adderall for a few years of my childhood until my parents took me off of it because I was too angry and violent as they said.
I got back on it a few years back after realizing that normal people didn't seem to struggle with problems I just took to be my own lack of willpower.
I occasionally take breaks, sometimes weekends or weeks. I've noticed when I get off of it, it is basically the same as when I had depressive episodes. I start to feel completely lethargic, don't care about anything, I want to sleep and I consume all food within a 10 mile radius. I've notice the same thought patterns coming off of adderall as I do when I am depressed. I don't care about anything, I don't want to exercise because who cares, eat a box of donuts, sure it feels good now, and who cares about later.
When on adderall I can be shorter with people and get angrier quicker; however I am also less likely to act out because I have better control of my angry impulses and am able to recognize it for what it is. I also don't deal well with distraction on adderall because I want to just go go go and focus on one thing. Take that for what it is worth.
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#26When I was a child and teen I was a hyperactive, unstimulated, bored, D- student. Ritalin drastically changed that and I was getting A's and teachers described me as a whole different person. I would too: it made me antisocial and jittery and basically robbed me of my humanity. Since then I've found drug-free strategies to manage my intellectual/social Jekyll and Hyde. The idea of performance enhancing drugs making t…
> The idea of performance enhancing drugs making their way into the workplace arena scares me a lot. You say that as if it hasn't already happened, Adderall has been ubiquitous for years. At my last office job we had an intern from out of state miss work abruptly because she couldn't get her Adderall prescription filled, and, I shit you not, skipped work to fly to Nevada to fill her out of state 'script because CA ph…
This is one thing that terrifies me about moving away from my Dr. if I were to move across the country and suddenly couldn't get my medicine I know I would quickly become a wreck for a week or so well I dealt with all of the comedowns.
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#27Only a matter of time before we are expected to take drugs to be better at our jobs.
We're all on caffeine already and no one is clutching pearls over it. How is taking harder drugs any different other than in effectiveness?
Caffeine wears off quickly, and seems to be good for you.
I go off cold turkey once in a while, and the worst I've ever gotten is a week of mild headaches.
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#28It would be interesting to see if microdosing LSD would lead to any ethical objections to war or violence on the part of the Marines.
I mean, I'm pretty sure the tendency for LSD users to ethically object to war or other offensive violence is exactly why the US decided it should be treated as more dangerous than crystal meth (or perfectly legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco and caffeine) despite there being precisely zero evidence of such danger.
Re: Microdosing: Improving performance enhancement in intelligence analysis (2019) [pdf]
#29Their proposed evaluation strategy is interesting - playing Go. And they cited Googles AI research using Go as reason behind it.