Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy • Hacker News Board

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by NosyHammock » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:16 PM UTC

selfmodruntime wrote: post #204

NosyHammock wrote: post #201

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>The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO. Hmmh, I don't know how to make it better. It's really challenging to do it without JS in the first place. Do you have any ideas?

So you're asking how to do it without a tool that was specifically designed for that purpose? I really don't get the hate for JS these days.

>So you're asking how to do it without a tool that was specifically designed for that purpose?

Yes, you are correct. This is a hobby project of mine, and one of the goal was to make old.reddit.com like UI without no JS at all. That's what I will do.

>I really don't get the hate for JS these days.

Unnecessary Javascript bloats websites, hogs system resources, enables surveillance, hinders accessibility that’s native to devices and clients, and introduces vulnerabilities. https://nojs.club/

Of course in this case using JS to hide/show comment tree wouldn't really be that bad, but works fairly well without it. Not many have complained.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by NosyHammock » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:17 PM UTC

crowf wrote: post #155

Great site! One annoyance (with potentially no good solution) is that when a Reddit comment links to another Reddit page rather than changing the link to the teddit equivalent, it links to Reddit causing Reddit to shout at me for having the audacity to brows Reddit on my phone without their app. Both i.reddit and ww.reddit work the same way so maybe there is a good reason not to hijack links, but just wanted to say.

Thanks! One solution for this could be to install an add-on which redirects Reddit => Teddit. I've used add-on called Privacy Redirect: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-redir...

But there are others too which can do the same, like: https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/redirector/

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by Inhibit » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:19 PM UTC

dkdk8283 wrote: post #113

m463 wrote: post #25

No cruft, no cdn domains and no javascript . I gave up on reddit a couple years back, but this might make me rethink. With so many things turning to mud, this is a good thing. What I cannot figure out is how they do the [-] show/hide stuff without javascript? Even hacker news - which is relatively lightweight - uses javascript for that. EDIT: ...and I'm back. It's like eating a box of candy for dinner - sugar rush an…

Biggest problem with Reddit is the giant echo chamber. Feels a lot like twitter. Super aggressive replies if you’re against the grain.

They also hate DIY "here's my design if anyone wants to use it" posts. Sharing that you did something seems to induce reddit wrath.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by Inhibit » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:21 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #170

ornornor wrote: post #148

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It feels to me like Reddit is only good for hobby or niche interests you might have. The main subreddits and politics are what make Reddit the shittiest. But if you stay away from these it’s ok.

Yes, non major subs are ok, also it's shifting toward annoying too. 2020 is not helping. My new social network is called the woods.

All those trees certainly cut down on the echo!

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by mariusor » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:24 PM UTC

sdan wrote: post #27

m463 wrote: post #25

No cruft, no cdn domains and no javascript . I gave up on reddit a couple years back, but this might make me rethink. With so many things turning to mud, this is a good thing. What I cannot figure out is how they do the [-] show/hide stuff without javascript? Even hacker news - which is relatively lightweight - uses javascript for that. EDIT: ...and I'm back. It's like eating a box of candy for dinner - sugar rush an…

The Title Content tag allows you to do that iirc. I use it on my site and works fine to hide things that you can expand upon when clicked.

Yes, that's how I do it on littr.me (a federated link aggregator).

[edit] An example: https://littr.me/moderation

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by IngvarLynn » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:27 PM UTC

DavideNL wrote: post #188

Hopefully someone will create a "redirect Reddit to Teddit" Firefox extension sometime soon :) ...similar to the "Old Reddit Redirect" extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

Please consider a more universal "privacy redirect" extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-redir...

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by detaro » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:35 PM UTC

rmrfstar wrote: post #135

detaro wrote: post #131

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It could be privacy focused by not accumulating that data.

Is there some reason I should believe they won't when it is clearly in their interest to do so?

"Why should I trust whoever runs this" is a very different question than "How can this be privacy focused", unless you believe people always have to act unethically if they can.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by Inhibit » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:43 PM UTC

ankit219 wrote: post #189

gkoberger wrote: post #4

There's a weird paradox... I believe in privacy/free speech/etc, however any social media targeted at those usecases tend to be a cesspool of horribleness.

Scott Alexander in one of the essays said it right. He did look at Voat as an example when he did. His quote (from point III) > if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if w…

Not a knock on you but this reminds me why I hate speaking (writing) example via analogy.

There's so much horrible surrounding using "witch" as the noun, what with the traditional "hey, that's a nice plot of land you've got there" that proceeded the accusation.

That's your historical witch-hunt. A convenient way of killing your neighbor. Heck, maybe it's an appropriate analogy.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by ornornor » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 3:57 PM UTC

schmorptron wrote: post #223

ornornor wrote: post #150

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Ha, I hate it when apps do that. One of the main reason I got rid of Spotify and my Spotify paid subscription was because their android app gobbled all the free space it could find on a device by filling it with caches music. “Of course Spotify, I pay extra for more storage on me device so you can use it to cache songs and save a few cents on bandwidth, you’re very welcome.”

Funny, that's pretty much the only reason I pay for spotify. Having music offline is really handy when you're out and not near wi-fi.

I’m not talking about being able to download an album actively. I’m talking about Spotify using up all my devices storage to store their own cache, songs I listened to but didn’t select to be downloaded for offline listening.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by oftenwrong » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:17 PM UTC

holler wrote: post #79

If you're looking for a low-cruft, minimalist alternative to Reddit or Twitter that's focused on live conversation, check out https://sqwok.im Disclaimer I am building it. Key Points: - Minimalist design with focus on readability & usability. - Real-time messaging meets news aggregator - All posts have a built-in chat room including presence, typing activity, etc. - Fast, open, simple - Anyone can view posts simply b…

Very nice concept and design. One thing I partially dislike about hn/reddit/youtube/etc is that most of the discussion has already occurred once I have arrived at a post. Although I admit that I find reading others' online discussions addictive, having a more real-time chat attached to a post like on sqwok is appealing. It means anyone can jump in and steer the discussion at any time, and not just be forced to tack on a comment at the bottom that will likely never be seen, buried under the weight of the existing discussion.

I have some feedback:

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One part of the interface confused me. From the "trending" tab I clicked on a post in the list. Then, I clicked the left-facing chevron above the post, which to me looked like a "back" button. After clicking, I was taken to the page of the user that made the post I was on. I expected to be taken back to the main trending list. This applies to both the desktop layout and to the mobile layout.

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An aspect of the design that rubs me the wrong way is the amount of persistent screen space dedicated to the content of a post in the desktop layout. The content of the post is generally pretty small, yet it takes up over half of the screen, and it appears there is no way to collapse it (?).

Once I've viewed the content of the post, I no longer need to see it, and would probably just want to engage in discussion in the chat with full focus. However, I'm still stuck with the main post taking up over half of the screen, and the chat boxed into its smaller panel.

In the mobile layout of sqwok, the user can click onto the chat tab, and the chat is given the full screen. I like that for a text or image post. On the other hand, for a video post I may want to view the video and read the comments at the same time.