In this point in time everything is compromised. It is a business function not user oriented design. If you affect the bottom line you actively making a statement in this. Don't buy smart IoT shit, don't buy new phones, don't use entertainment services. This is how you will make a difference. Waiting for legislation to remove corporate malpractice is absurd. Politicians are fighting who will get "retirement" benefits…
72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
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Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it? I’m still holding onto my TV from 2014 because it doesn’t have “smart” functionality. Every time I look at new ones I can’t find good dumb ones.
Yeah as others have said, the TV can't get online by itself, so you simply don't configure the "Smart" features and it should work just fine (although perhaps that is something to confirm before purchase).
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#133I’m responsible for a bunch of IoT hardware, and every firmware spec I write includes a note on not using the DNS servers provided via DHCP. While sure there are companies explicitly doing this to avoid filtering, at least in my case it’s because a significant proportion of DHCP servers are configured to send DNS to your ISP, and ISP provided DNS is almost universally terrible. They’ll ignore TTLs, rewrite NXDOMAIN r…
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#134I’m responsible for a bunch of IoT hardware, and every firmware spec I write includes a note on not using the DNS servers provided via DHCP. While sure there are companies explicitly doing this to avoid filtering, at least in my case it’s because a significant proportion of DHCP servers are configured to send DNS to your ISP, and ISP provided DNS is almost universally terrible. They’ll ignore TTLs, rewrite NXDOMAIN r…
What DNS do you hardcode? Google's? Or do you advice the use to set it up himself? I am very suspicious of the push for https and the like. I feel it is mainly about hiding the payload from me not any third party.
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#135Honestly there is no scenario where your TV should have Internet access. Setup Kodi and you're done.
Unless you mean buy a separate box, put Kodi on it and attach that to the TV
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'm lucky enough to be able to direct ALL DNS through my router first Even DNS over HTTPS? Do you do packet inspection? Just blocking ports doesn't do much any more. I run an IDS/IPS and it blocks lots of DoH to Google. Apple devices are even worse.
Would you mind sharing a bit more detail on your setup?
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#137I’m responsible for a bunch of IoT hardware, and every firmware spec I write includes a note on not using the DNS servers provided via DHCP. While sure there are companies explicitly doing this to avoid filtering, at least in my case it’s because a significant proportion of DHCP servers are configured to send DNS to your ISP, and ISP provided DNS is almost universally terrible. They’ll ignore TTLs, rewrite NXDOMAIN r…
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#138Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mine quite happily works as a dumb TV without a connection, and I know many others who do the same. Though I hear stories of TVs being annoying to use without a connection (timing out waiting for a server response that can never come, before falling back to an ad free menu, or just constantly nagging, even while content is playing, about the lack of connectivity).
Yeah I worry about this sort of “annoy the customer into connecting” behavior becoming more common as integrating ads becomes more a part of the business model. Also could connect to open wifi networks in more densely populated areas The real problem will be integrated cellular connectivity with no option to disable.
How the hell is this legal???
Re: 72% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles hardcode DNS settings
#140> some of these devices are using a sneaky tactic to bypass your PiHole entirely I don't think that it's malevolent on their part. Lots of ISP DNS are crappy. Hardcoding a reasonably reliable one saves them a lot of frustration and unnecessary technical support.
So if every single piece of hardware or software followed this one crazy trick the world would be better because some people at a tech company wouldn’t have to field as many support questions?