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Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by NosyHammock »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #194
m463 wrote: post #25

No cruft, no cdn domains and no javascript . I gave up on reddit a couple years back, but this might make me rethink. With so many things turning to mud, this is a good thing. What I cannot figure out is how they do the [-] show/hide stuff without javascript? Even hacker news - which is relatively lightweight - uses javascript for that. EDIT: ...and I'm back. It's like eating a box of candy for dinner - sugar rush an…

"... no javascript." This is why I hang around on HN. Only place I know where I can find other people who agree that today's use of Javascript, 9 times out of 10, amounts to a nusiance. The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO. Should be an accessibility violation; cannot tab through it. I guess thats why I use a text-only browser. Avoids all the Javscript nonsense, not to mention the next CSS trick du jour.

>The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO.

Hmmh, I don't know how to make it better. It's really challenging to do it without JS in the first place. Do you have any ideas?

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by tgv »

cole-k wrote: post #139

Would probably switch in a heartbeat if I could expand the posts without opening a new tab. How difficult would it be to port Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES) to this? Or is there some browser extension that lets me accomplish roughly the same thing? I think I'm one of many people who spends most of their time lurking anyway. Might still give it a go...if I wouldn't browse reddit as much with the added friction of open…

I guess you can write some javascript that adds an iframe to the page and with the link as the source.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by NosyHammock »

thidr0 wrote: post #102
diogenesjunior wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and no javascript. Here is the source code: https://github.com/teddit-net/teddit . Maybe I am mistaken, but there seems to be a lot of JavaScript running this website.

The server is written in JavaScript, yes. But I don’t believe there is any client-side JavaScript

Yea, the server side is running on Node.js (with Pug template engine), but the client-side doesn't have any JS whatsoever.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by selfmodruntime »

NosyHammock wrote: post #201
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... no javascript." This is why I hang around on HN. Only place I know where I can find other people who agree that today's use of Javascript, 9 times out of 10, amounts to a nusiance. The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO. Should be an accessibility violation; cannot tab through it. I guess thats why I use a text-only browser. Avoids all the Javscript nonsense, not to mention the next CSS trick du jour.

>The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO. Hmmh, I don't know how to make it better. It's really challenging to do it without JS in the first place. Do you have any ideas?

So you're asking how to do it without a tool that was specifically designed for that purpose? I really don't get the hate for JS these days.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by selfmodruntime »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #194
m463 wrote: post #25

No cruft, no cdn domains and no javascript . I gave up on reddit a couple years back, but this might make me rethink. With so many things turning to mud, this is a good thing. What I cannot figure out is how they do the [-] show/hide stuff without javascript? Even hacker news - which is relatively lightweight - uses javascript for that. EDIT: ...and I'm back. It's like eating a box of candy for dinner - sugar rush an…

"... no javascript." This is why I hang around on HN. Only place I know where I can find other people who agree that today's use of Javascript, 9 times out of 10, amounts to a nusiance. The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO. Should be an accessibility violation; cannot tab through it. I guess thats why I use a text-only browser. Avoids all the Javscript nonsense, not to mention the next CSS trick du jour.

The irony of complaining about one echo chamber and enjoying living in the 'no javascript' bubble is astounding. Can you use text-only websites for most use cases? Sure. Are people more likely to pay for your product if your website has client-sided interactivity and doesn't look awful? Absolutely.

I really don't get this complain and I've only seen it from developers. Certainly not company owners for pay for server/hosting costs (because they have seen how the insane costs of rendering everything server-side with large user bases). Even common people prefer it the way it is currently. The market has decided.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by NosyHammock »

cole-k wrote: post #139

Would probably switch in a heartbeat if I could expand the posts without opening a new tab. How difficult would it be to port Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES) to this? Or is there some browser extension that lets me accomplish roughly the same thing? I think I'm one of many people who spends most of their time lurking anyway. Might still give it a go...if I wouldn't browse reddit as much with the added friction of open…

This is really challenging thing to do without any client-side JS. It would require downloading media (not just little thumbnails) of every post in the current subreddit view. I might make a feature where people can enable (disabled by default) certain features from the preferences which enables them to use features like this which require client-side JS.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by selfmodruntime »

thidr0 wrote: post #102
diogenesjunior wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and no javascript. Here is the source code: https://github.com/teddit-net/teddit . Maybe I am mistaken, but there seems to be a lot of JavaScript running this website.

The server is written in JavaScript, yes. But I don’t believe there is any client-side JavaScript

Which also means that under heavy load, the server just crashes generating templates for that many users instead of just serving JS and rendering on the client-side. There's a reason we do things like this nowadays.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by NosyHammock »

henlo wrote: post #60

Wait, I just realized after 15 minutes browsing this website that I'm not using VPN. Reddit is blocked in my country, so Teddit will be the replacement for me. I like browsing Reddit without an account, just to read something. But I don't want to install their super big mobile app (1GB+), and I hate their lagging and weird website on mobile.

>Wait, I just realized after 15 minutes browsing this website that I'm not using VPN. Reddit is blocked in my country, so Teddit will be the replacement for me.

I love to heart that! Awesome.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

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Post by tgv »

DavideNL wrote: post #188

Hopefully someone will create a "redirect Reddit to Teddit" Firefox extension sometime soon :) ...similar to the "Old Reddit Redirect" extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

I just cloned it, replaced "old.reddit.com" by "teddit.net", and it works.

Not sure what the paths "poll" and "rpan" and such are, though.

Re: Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused on privacy

#210

Post by Nextgrid »

unityByFreedom wrote: post #125

Seems like a rather expensive free service to offer. How much bandwidth was used by the virality of this post? If this became popular I don't see how someone could afford to keep it going.

Outside of AWS and the cloud bubble, bandwidth is extremely cheap. You can get dedicated servers (aka actual hardware) with 100Mbps of unmetered bandwidth for a couple bucks a month.
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