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Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by DoreenMichele » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:18 AM UTC

jewel wrote: post #9

Since it's not spelled out in the article, what is a better mental model for how the world works?

The answer to that depends on what is wrong with the mental models of the individual in question.

But I will suggest these two ideas as a rebuttal for some things I see as common errors in thinking:

A college degree doesn't guarantee a real career with a good income and financial security.

Being "good with money" can help a whole lot, but only if you first have some money. It fixes nothing if there is no money to work with or if the money you have is wholly inadequate.

Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by RobRivera » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:19 AM UTC

I never understood why some peoplr could be so entitled and harsh to the people trying tl provide guidance and help.

Its disgusting.

Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:23 AM UTC

rsync wrote: post #20

frutiger wrote: post #6

As I read the post, especially the references to Metafilter in combination with a lesson about homelessness, I thought to myself, “This sounds like DoreenMichele.” I press the back button and, see it is submitted by them. I press the forward button and scroll to the top and it was written by them. It’s a small world.

"As I read the post, especially the references to Metafilter in combination with a lesson about homelessness, I thought to myself, “This sounds like DoreenMichele.”" I have been impressed recently by the posts by DoreenMichele and have expressed appreciation for those posts here. I am a little confused by this description of metafilter, however - I am not an active member of that community but I have been reading it…

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Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by nathanvanfleet » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:29 AM UTC

This guy really considers himself exceptional

Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by vostok » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:29 AM UTC

aplummer wrote: post #5

Swizec wrote: post #4

Fantastic read! Always remember that "money doesn't buy happiness" is the shibboleth for people who always had money. Bring that up next time someone says it. Fun reaction guaranteed. I like to follow it up with my favorite slavic saying: "Sure money won't make you happy, but crying in a Ferrari is much nicer than on the bus"

I agree It's such a crazy statement. If going to the supermarket and buying whatever you want doesn't seem like a crazy luxury, you've got a 1% station only perspective.

I believe the threshold for the top 1% is around $10 million in net worth excluding primary residence.

Being able to buy whatever you want at the super market is probably a top 25% of the US perspective if not more.

Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by jakeva » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:30 AM UTC

nathanvanfleet wrote: post #24

This guy really considers himself exceptional

How do you figure?

Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:30 AM UTC

gfxgirl wrote: post #14

> Growing up, I kind of thought "Most people are just nice." I had no means to figure out how much was natural charm, how much was me dressing well... > Being homeless taught me that, no, most people absolutely are not just nice. I know this will get downvoted but AFAIK most people see homeless people themselves as "not nice" as in "it's not nice to foist your problems on the rest of us", "it's not nice not to take r…

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Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by RobRivera » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:31 AM UTC

jewel wrote: post #9

Since it's not spelled out in the article, what is a better mental model for how the world works?

What is 'better'?

What is 'the world'?

What 'is'?

Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by Aeolun » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:37 AM UTC

Swizec wrote: post #4

Fantastic read! Always remember that "money doesn't buy happiness" is the shibboleth for people who always had money. Bring that up next time someone says it. Fun reaction guaranteed. I like to follow it up with my favorite slavic saying: "Sure money won't make you happy, but crying in a Ferrari is much nicer than on the bus"

Not sure about that ferrari. Crying while someone else is driving you is much more comfortable.

Re: This is Real, That's Not

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Post by cleansingfire » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 4:39 AM UTC

Swizec wrote: post #4

Fantastic read! Always remember that "money doesn't buy happiness" is the shibboleth for people who always had money. Bring that up next time someone says it. Fun reaction guaranteed. I like to follow it up with my favorite slavic saying: "Sure money won't make you happy, but crying in a Ferrari is much nicer than on the bus"

When I hear "Money doesn't buy happiness" my internal response is always

"but poverty can ensure misery"