Any purpose to this post other than scaring people? How about you compare things to previous years instead.
Excess mortality from March to December of 2020
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#12Excess mortality seems like the best way to track the pandemic because determining whether someone died of covid can be debatable sometimes, but there can be no debate over whether someone died.
I know at least one person who’s having problems exacerbated by lack of mobility. Atrophy in old people can be a big problem. I would not go so far as to support anyone claiming this is why we should be breaking quarantine, but can’t quite support racking them all up as COVID deaths either. Reality is somewhere between the two (but close to “most” than “few”)
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#13In the New Zealand winter less people died than usual by more than 10% in some months - I suppose less flu cases
Yup. This also was also reported to have provided a weaker than usual signal for the seasonal Flu vaccine in the North. Each hemisphere uses data collected during the winter in the other hemisphere to guess what Influenza variants will be most common in their countries when it's their turn, then it takes several months to turn those guesses into bulk vaccine for immunising the elderly and vulnerable and give them a j…
Oh thats why some years it seems to work, others not, TIL.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know at least one person who’s having problems exacerbated by lack of mobility. Atrophy in old people can be a big problem. I would not go so far as to support anyone claiming this is why we should be breaking quarantine, but can’t quite support racking them all up as COVID deaths either. Reality is somewhere between the two (but close to “most” than “few”)
I am confused by this. Either this person is only mobile in indoor spaces for some reason or this person lives somewhere they were doing police checkpoints if you leave your house (like Bangalore). I've spent at least 2x more hours outside, walking, riding bikes, hiking, hitting golf balls, etc. There's nothing else to do but be outside. The fact that I don't have to go into the office and no longer can or want to vi…
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#15How can we separate out deaths of despair (suicides, overdoses, etc.) brought on by lockdowns?
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#16How can we separate out deaths of despair (suicides, overdoses, etc.) brought on by lockdowns?
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#17How can we separate out deaths of despair (suicides, overdoses, etc.) brought on by lockdowns?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-deat...
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know at least one person who’s having problems exacerbated by lack of mobility. Atrophy in old people can be a big problem. I would not go so far as to support anyone claiming this is why we should be breaking quarantine, but can’t quite support racking them all up as COVID deaths either. Reality is somewhere between the two (but close to “most” than “few”)
I am confused by this. Either this person is only mobile in indoor spaces for some reason or this person lives somewhere they were doing police checkpoints if you leave your house (like Bangalore). I've spent at least 2x more hours outside, walking, riding bikes, hiking, hitting golf balls, etc. There's nothing else to do but be outside. The fact that I don't have to go into the office and no longer can or want to vi…
For example, someone could have used to walk to work, or walk to lunch. Or just spent more time walking about an office building than their home office. Or had a routine of hitting the gym after work, but be unable to find the same motivation to work out at home.
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#19Excess mortality seems like the best way to track the pandemic because determining whether someone died of covid can be debatable sometimes, but there can be no debate over whether someone died.
I know at least one person who’s having problems exacerbated by lack of mobility. Atrophy in old people can be a big problem. I would not go so far as to support anyone claiming this is why we should be breaking quarantine, but can’t quite support racking them all up as COVID deaths either. Reality is somewhere between the two (but close to “most” than “few”)
The pattern is very clear and obvious, and not at all what you would expect if the primary cause were just something to do with being in lockdown.
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#20How can we separate out deaths of despair (suicides, overdoses, etc.) brought on by lockdowns?
Corona doesn’t kill you by overdose, hanging or self-inflicted gunshots.