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Reddit Claims 52M Daily Users, Revealing a Key Figure for Social-Media Platforms

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Re: Reddit Claims 52M Daily Users, Revealing a Key Figure for Social-Media Platforms

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Post by canofbars »

Trasmatta wrote: post #43
obilgic wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sticking to a very old design, and refusing to update and adapt to current design patterns and styles while everything about technology/devices and how we use them changes daily: feels like a sub-culture

Well they tried to use "current design patterns and styles" for the redesign, and it led to a bloated, slow, bad user experience. That's either an indictment of modern web patterns or just a bad implementation of them. I think it's a bit of both.

The actual visual design of the new site is better. Its just functionally crap and loaded with spyware/adverts.

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Post by _underfl0w_ »

disown wrote: post #111
squeals_colder wrote: post #94

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> And here is a perfect example of wumao propaganda. It's been my experience that people who use wumao, chinazi, xitler, etc are propagandists. You should really refrain using those obvious propaganda tells. It makes it impossible to take anything else you write seriously.

I have no horse in this race, but generally speaking you should really refrain from teaching propaganda trolls how to be less obvious. Letting them out _themselves_ simplifies life for everyone else.

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Post by sumedh »

marpstar wrote: post #293
ihuman wrote: post #263

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> which is great as a user, but horrible for monetization That's Reddit's fault, though. They don't include ads when a user uses the API.

Even if they did, it'd be trivial for a developer to exclude the ads, and why wouldn't they? Obviously Reddit could try and enforce that via ToS, but even then they'd have to track offenders down and threaten them with revocation.

Cant they use an API Key to track down offenders?

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Post by _underfl0w_ »

lebaux wrote: post #56

HN should prey Reddit keeps their marbles together, because you all know the place big chunk of their ursebase would fled to. I know I did.

Friendly tip (in case that wasn't autocorrect in action) - "prey" is someone/something that is hunted, "pray" is what people do to talk to their favorite immortal deity or what-have-you.

Re: Reddit Claims 52M Daily Users, Revealing a Key Figure for Social-Media Platforms

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Post by hadlock »

spoonjim wrote: post #333

Surprised that Reddit is only 1/40th of Facebook.

I think of Reddit as a 21st century forum, whereas Facebook is a true 'Social Media' website. Forums have different usage patterns and allegiances compared to social media websites. They can be roughly compared, but it's a poor comparison, like trying to say if Excel (reddit) or Powerpoint (facebook) is better.

Facebook has groups which sort of function as forums, but they're crudely spliced into your news feed, and rarely(!) sorted in chronological order. Forums on the other hand have dedicated threads about specific topics, are easily searchable and a two year old thread can still be relevant.

Social media sites tend to be more immediate, and comments on old posts may only continue for several days on average.

TL;DR Reddit and Facebook are very different products, with different usage patterns, and have different appeals to different segments of society.

It does not surprise me in the least that an internet forum would have a lower daily usage count compared to a social media service.

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Post by _underfl0w_ »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #90
BitwiseFool wrote: post #72

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I'm very thankful the user culture and the moderation policy here is geared towards productive discussion on focused topics. It's not a one size fits all social media site, its meant for tech and startup discussion. Plus, people don't seem to reward stupid puns, pithy comments, twitter style "hot takes", begging for upvotes, etc.. I would hope this keeps HN somewhat inoculated from becoming another Reddit.

You're giving HN too much credit. Reddit may be scraping the bottom of the barrel intellectually but humans pretty much all have decent skills at fitting in. Reddit users are perfectly capable of coming here and not cracking puns if that's what it takes to make the virtue points counter in the top right get bigger. There's obscene amounts of in-group signaling here too. It just takes different forms. Forms other user…

e.g. the whole "Paul Graham" thing. Wonderful guy, but I've inadvertently stumbled onto what appeared to be the HN equivalent of dog-whistling when it comes to him and Lisp. It was unexpected at first.

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Post by 8organicbits »

ihuman wrote: post #263
acwan93 wrote: post #259

I wonder if Reddit is hitting the same issue as Twitter did with regards to third-party apps. Like Twitter, Reddit has a robust API that allows for really full-featured apps to fetch/post content, which is great as a user, but horrible for monetization. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point third party Reddit clients end up getting neutered much like Twitter apps have become. Given that the mobile site is turning…

> which is great as a user, but horrible for monetization That's Reddit's fault, though. They don't include ads when a user uses the API.

I wonder how advertisers would feel about their ad showing up in arbitrary unofficial applications. I'd guess ads sent via API to be shown on unofficial apps would be less desirable than ads on the official app (which has known behaviors that reddit can document). Maybe the price would be lower or they'd only pay per click?

Do any other APIs include ads to be shown to the end user? It's an interesting idea!

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Post by dredmorbius »

jedberg wrote: post #63
isatty wrote: post #28

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I know that Reddit admins read HN so please please do not kill off old.reddit.com. The redesign is absolute garbage. Normally I don’t express such strong sentiment on HN but I’ve been a Reddit user for 10 years and I genuinely like the communities, but not enough to suffer through the new website.

I'm not sure how many of the current admins read HN. I just know some of us old guys hang around here. And FWIW I agree with you. I've been a 15 year reddit user (and employee!) but if old.reddit goes away, I suspect my usage will go way down. The good news is that the current execs know this, because I have told them. But at the end of the day they have to do what's best for the business, and I'm afraid those of us…

Even just the direction and focus revealed by Reddit's constant pressuring toward the new design and behaviour, along with the failure to address long-standing architectural flaws in the site which render it useless for substantive discussion drove me off years ago:

https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/8rq08y/i_wont_...

Yes, I (very occasionally) post. But it's absolutely in the spirit of "this is a horrible experience and I would prefer any viable alternative". Other options, even if (or perhaps because they are) much smaller, are emerging and preferable.

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Post by kristofferR »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #294
ihuman wrote: post #263

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> which is great as a user, but horrible for monetization That's Reddit's fault, though. They don't include ads when a user uses the API.

If they did though, wouldn’t a third party client at least give the option to strip them out given their presence makes the app worse for most users?

Reddit could then revoke the API keys easily.
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