US House Vote 228-164 Approve Legislation Decriminalize Marijuana Federal Level
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#2Interesting debate; thanks for the cspan link which includes the transcript
Re: US House Vote 228-164 Approve Legislation Decriminalize Marijuana Federal Level
#3It's about time! There is no reason a drug that is considerably less harmful than alcohol should be criminalized to such a high degree.
Re: US House Vote 228-164 Approve Legislation Decriminalize Marijuana Federal Level
#4It's about time! There is no reason a drug that is considerably less harmful than alcohol should be criminalized to such a high degree.
Unlikely to pass in the Senate due to many Congressional reps who don't believe in decriminalization. Has a chance depending on the Georgia runoff results in January. Would still be helpful to come up for a Senate vote to know who you're up against. Still progress to have the vote and pass in the House.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/04/lega...
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/04/942949288/house-approves-decr...
Re: US House Vote 228-164 Approve Legislation Decriminalize Marijuana Federal Level
#5It's about time! There is no reason a drug that is considerably less harmful than alcohol should be criminalized to such a high degree.
Unlikely to pass in the Senate due to many Congressional reps who don't believe in decriminalization. Has a chance depending on the Georgia runoff results in January. Would still be helpful to come up for a Senate vote to know who you're up against. Still progress to have the vote and pass in the House. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/04/lega... https://www.npr.org/2020/12/04/942949288/house-appr…
A smart move for Democrats would be to hammer Republicans on their reluctance to pass this bill in the Republican controlled Senate (Marijuana legalization polls extremely well nationally) before the GA runoffs.
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#6"You want to know what this was really all about?
The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news.
Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
- John Ehrlichman, Richard Nixon's aide on domestic affairs:
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unlikely to pass in the Senate due to many Congressional reps who don't believe in decriminalization. Has a chance depending on the Georgia runoff results in January. Would still be helpful to come up for a Senate vote to know who you're up against. Still progress to have the vote and pass in the House. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/04/lega... https://www.npr.org/2020/12/04/942949288/house-appr…
A smart move for Democrats would be to hammer Republicans on their reluctance to pass this bill in the Republican controlled Senate (Marijuana legalization polls extremely well nationally) before the GA runoffs.
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Re: US House Vote 228-164 Approve Legislation Decriminalize Marijuana Federal Level
#8"You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt t…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20878445
Whereby I say in response to someone questioning the source of that quote: "That's the best you're going to find, some journalist's reminiscence twenty-some years after the fact. So I would caution anyone to be wary of whipping that quote out to make a point."
Until I hear of a better source (and I won't), I am putting this quote in the "urban legend" bucket. All that's missing is an attribution to Mark Twain.
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#9"You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt t…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20878445 Whereby I say in response to someone questioning the source of that quote: "That's the best you're going to find, some journalist's reminiscence twenty-some years after the fact. So I would caution anyone to be wary of whipping that quote out to make a point." Until I hear of a better source (and I won't), I am putting this quote in the "urban legend" bucket. All that's m…
Is this journalist untrustworthy?
Re: US House Vote 228-164 Approve Legislation Decriminalize Marijuana Federal Level
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unlikely to pass in the Senate due to many Congressional reps who don't believe in decriminalization. Has a chance depending on the Georgia runoff results in January. Would still be helpful to come up for a Senate vote to know who you're up against. Still progress to have the vote and pass in the House. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/04/lega... https://www.npr.org/2020/12/04/942949288/house-appr…
A smart move for Democrats would be to hammer Republicans on their reluctance to pass this bill in the Republican controlled Senate (Marijuana legalization polls extremely well nationally) before the GA runoffs.
The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter what republicans do or don't do if the people who vote for them only watch Fox News and don't see this as a bad thing. Democrats can hammer all they want, the voters they need will never see the criticisms and genuinely think democrats are "as bad" or evil or something stupid