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I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…
I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…
Sure. LiveConnect was commonly used as glue to invoke and interact with applets from JS.
I wouldn't necessarily say that it enabled a virtually unlimited blah blah enterprise parp, but it had its uses. A common hack was to put some shared storage in an applet so multiple documents could use it to persist and communicate cross-document data, back before browsers could do that natively.
There was some really tedious bug in IE with the Sun VM that occasionally allowed JS events to fire concurrently whilst LiveConnect was waiting for a response from a method called on an applet, which we never quite figured out. This was one of many things that made JS+applet development unreliable and unpleasant.
I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…
I think people forget that the early web had a proliferation of plug-ins. JavaScript was most often used as glue between HTML and plug-ins which had fewer platform incompatibilities than the browsers. One of the reasons Flash became the dominant plug-in was because it was universal enough to duplicate the features of other plug-ins, including asynchronous communication via Java applet.
I bought a book, when I was about 12-15 years old, called DHTML (Dynamic HTML). It blew my mind to see things moving across the screen with just code. Keep in mind that I learned pure html when I was 10, my websites were all very static (apart from a animated GIF here and there). The only way you could do a cool menu, effect or animation, was with Java Applet (which I learned after purchasing a online Java course tha…
It still bothers me when people talk about dynamic HTML these days. Just two weeks ago some team lead said it and I thought 'dude, that is so 90s'.
That said, ask them if they'd prefer the backend in PHP or Coldfusion.
I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…
> JavaScript is analogous to Visual Basic in that it can be used by people with little or no programming experience to quickly construct complex applications. >JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users ove…
>> can be used by people with little or no programming experience to quickly construct complex applications ... has it? ;-) (Note: joke with deference to the huge pool of incredibly talented js developers! But there are still a lot of mind bogglingly terrible js devs too)
What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!
For what? Imagine a world without Javascript? You have mini extension in browser to just auto refresh gmail
Server-side applications (CGI) started the trend of the web browser becoming an application interface. Javascript made the web browser the application platform. But of course it was not designed for this, so a million hacks have been added to shore it up. To the point of literally including a standard to ship arbitrary binary executable programs into it. There used to be another tool and language which allowed you to ship arbitrary binary executable programs to remote systems... it was called Java.
The Web is the best example in history of how successful turd polishing can be. The global economy now rests on it.
I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…
Brendan Eich addresses that topic in this interview. The whole interview is (very much!) worth a read but here's some key parts about the name https://www.infoworld.com/article/2653798/javascript-creator... >It was all within six months from May till December (1995) that it was Mocha and then LiveScript. And then in early December, Netscape and Sun did a license agreement and it became JavaScript. And the idea was to…
Why didn’t that happen? And why did it take so long before we got Groovy instead, if Sun wanted was imagining something like it way back in 1995?
i can't remember if in 1995 we would write the code to be AT&T or if that came a bit later.
perhaps the scraper thought it was an HTML entity starting with the & followed by the T and it added the semi-colon.
or maybe it originally was posted in 1995 without the semi-colon and before it got indexed in 2002 by archive.org someone ran a regex style replacement on old static html files at netscape to "fix" html entities.
it just doesn't seem likely that a static html file from 1995 would have had AT&T; in it, it seems more likely that it was transformed either by the scraper or some internal script run after it was originally posted.
i found an old email version of the press release on Lunds University website that does not have the semi-colon. http://www2.ldc.lu.se/temadag95/javascript.txt
and what looks like an archive of the 1995 version of the java website hosted at University of Oviedo: http://www6.uniovi.es/java-http/pr951204-03.html