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How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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>> Instead of reading 100 books, it’s better to find one that really changes your life This is just flat out wrong for non-fiction. This is not a good way to use books or any research material, except perhaps meta-analysis’ but even then with caution. It doesn’t matter how many 5 star reviews it has, or who wrote it. You will be far better served by reading many writers on the topic and using your learning from each…

What the author means, is that many people read a lot of books, but don't internalize and adapt their actions accordingly in a truly meaningful way (count me in). So his argument is, to better take one good book and truly learn from it and change yourself than read a hundred books and forget 90% of what you read, let alone to change your actions.

That said, I agree with you that having more sources of information reduces the risk of falling to the misconceptions of one or a few authors.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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I find it funny that the author chose 'Thinking, Fast and Slow' as the title image as that is one of the books I read and I am 100% certain there is so much more to learn from that book than what I have learned. How do I know?

After reading said book, I read a few other books and some of them actually cited 'Thinking, Fast and Slow' and applied some of the concepts in new contexts and sometimes I thought 'Wow, I didn't realize the implications when I read the original book'.

So I think it is actually a book that is well worth to be actively read, but currently I still find myself struggling to keep integrating the lessons from 'How to make friends and influence people' into my everyday actions.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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>> Instead of reading 100 books, it’s better to find one that really changes your life This is just flat out wrong for non-fiction. This is not a good way to use books or any research material, except perhaps meta-analysis’ but even then with caution. It doesn’t matter how many 5 star reviews it has, or who wrote it. You will be far better served by reading many writers on the topic and using your learning from each…

Even ignoring the idea that reading a lot is beneficial in of itself, how do you find the single book that changes your life without reading the 100 books to find it? Pick one at random and mold your life around it? Choose one based on random internet stranger recommendation? Be given a recommendation from someone in your life?

No matter how you spin it, it's a feel good line. It's a line that cannot even work in theory, as you cannot know the book changes your life prior to reading it.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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Articles like this should start with at least some reason we should think the author is actually in a position to give advice on this subject. Reading a bunch of popular bestseller self help books doesn't actually teach you anything, even if you read 5000 of them.

> Reading a bunch of popular bestseller self help books doesn't actually teach you anything, even if you read 5000 of them. Agree. Your time in life is finite, so one should read only the good stuff (and yes, objectively, some books are better than others).

> Agree. Your time in life is finite, so one should read only the good stuff (and yes, objectively, some books are better than others).

Wow, what a way to look at things... if life is finite why waste all of your time reading books someone else deems to be be "objectively" better than others? Just read whatever the hell appeals to you and forget about the official "deemed worthy" cannon.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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My problem with all these systems for reading books is that it starts to feel like a work I have to do, instead of enjoyment. I just want to read a book in my leisure time and not fill out templates in my notebook/app, constantly worrying that I might have missed some key idea.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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Your comment reminds me of something Andy Matuschak wrote: > But most people who write about note-taking don’t seem particularly accomplished in their own fields, whatever those may be. In fact, most such writers aren’t applying their notes to some exogenous creative problem: their primary creative work is writing about productivity. These writers offer advice on note-taking to help scientists and executives with the…

This applies to coaching in general. Don't take coaching advice from someone that is less accomplished than you. He should be as least as accomplished as where you'd like to be in 5-10 years, etc.

I think that advice breaks down when you reach the highest levels. For example, even the best hitters in baseball have hitting coaches.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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Your comment reminds me of something Andy Matuschak wrote: > But most people who write about note-taking don’t seem particularly accomplished in their own fields, whatever those may be. In fact, most such writers aren’t applying their notes to some exogenous creative problem: their primary creative work is writing about productivity. These writers offer advice on note-taking to help scientists and executives with the…

Feynman with his (super simple...) method for getting deep understanding is a great example.

I've never head of this. Care to provide a link?

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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My problem with all these systems for reading books is that it starts to feel like a work I have to do, instead of enjoyment. I just want to read a book in my leisure time and not fill out templates in my notebook/app, constantly worrying that I might have missed some key idea.

Well you get more out of books when you do something to interact with them more than a linear stream of text. These sort of "self-improvement-hack" BS systems are good for the kind of people they appeal to, but you don't need a form to fill out or some regiment. Likewise not every piece of text deserves the same attention. Some things don't need to be read at all, some things skimmed, some read through once, some with a bit of reflection, some with extreme studying over years.

Just the exercise of doing something regarding the text. Keeping notes in the margin, discussing it with someone, writing a review of the material in long form or in bullet points, keeping track of questions you have, etc. all enhances what you get out of a book. You might resent it as a chore, so you just figure out what works best for you, maybe it's nothing, but trying something different from time to time can't hurt.

My advice is to keep a pencil at hand when you're reading to take a note, underline a passage, or if you don't like writing in the margins, a notebook to the side to highlight things you think are important, things you think are questionable, questions it raises in you, etc.

After that, share it. When you read a section, explain it to your partner, your cat, an internet stranger, to yourself in your notebook, etc.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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Sometimes I wonder how I would turn out if I did organized people stuff like this. What bothers me is these life advices always feel like bullshit. Like, check this guy out. He has his own website with a title "Den Zhadanov\nTechnology. Productivity. Inspiration.". This is life coaching 101. He writes about how burning man didn't change his life and has pictures of books on beaches. How does one take this person seri…

You're my spirit animal sir/madam.

Just another blog post telling people how to live by a person whose whole existence revolves around that process.

And yet, inexplicably, this drivel is somehow popular. I guess clueless people feel like they could learn something while not realizing that author himself doesn't know what he's talking about.

Re: How I read books: a guide on how to learn

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I took the other route and decided to read 100 books in a year. Did that for 3 years. They were mostly top rated or highly popular or highly recommended non-fiction books of all time, including the one pictured in the article. Most books are highly overrated. They usually take some useful ideas, usually what author perceived was useful to them, and add things to them to make it sound useful to their target readers, w…

Are there any books that stand out (to you personally) as must-reads out of these ~300? I've come to a similar conclusion (Sturgeon's law) consuming CS/SE-books, and want to minimize repeating myself pursuing other non-fiction subjects.

Yes, lots. But again, I think it's a life situation thing. What is extremely revealing and useful for me could be completely redundant or harmful for you.

Having said that, I found the following, in no particular order, worth it to have read than not:

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The Richest Man in Babylon

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It simplified how I think about personal finance for me. I was irresponsible with my finances. This provided some basic rules of economics and personal finance that have stuck with me.

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The Simple Path to Wealth

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I read this one only recently but it simplified things even more for me when it comes to investing. I had been doing sort of the same thing but it gave it much more perspective on how simple things can be.

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How I found Freedom in an Unfree World

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I think this one has empowered me to look for things I can control rather than getting stuck up on things I can't.

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The Sovereign Individual

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I have a different and richer view of politics than I did before I read this book.

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A Short History of Nearly Everything

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Gives a different perspective of scientists. I think I believed "science" much more before I got to know personal stories of scientists.

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Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

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Good read just because it's popular and referenced in other places... and is interesting if you're into "history" of humans. It's fictional (in that, it's his take on what happened) obviously but he makes it look like that is actually what happened.

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All books by Nassim Nicholas Taleb

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He has the same kind of hatred of the academics that I do, which I think I resonate with. And the ideas are interesting.

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Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy

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Simplified (sometimes oversimplified) economics which is a good read for American conservative view on economics.

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Propaganda by Edward Bernays

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This was written when the meaning of propaganda was changing to something nefarious (previously, it has a positive neutral or positive meaning to it, in that it meant "propagation of information" - implied to be for public good). Edward Bernays is the father of what is now known as Public Relations.

Related to the same book:

* http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html (this one is among the most shared links on HN)

* Tim Wu's books: The Master Switch and The Attention Merchants

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The Complete Guide to Fasting

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Even though I met people who were fasting, I needed to read this before I would start doing it myself so that I felt I understood what I was getting into.

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High Output Management

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I was a follower of "management is unnecessary" meme which pervades the dev community. This gives a first principle view of what's happening in management.

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The Confessions of an Economic Hit Man (and the newer edition of the same)

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It's just an insider view on international organizations. I had second hand knowledge of how corrupt these organizations are... but it is just one more confirmation. Do I think the author is biased? Yes. It's only his view and I'm sure other people many have a more positive outlook and intentions in these organizations... but at least I'm familiar with this one.

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Unsavory Truth: How Food Companies Skew the Science of What We Eat

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Again, it's one view of how food science works, and it confirms my personal experience with information I get from science, whether on the internet or from the doctors (who basically say the same thing that ends up in WebMD).

These are not all of them but it covers a lot of them that I consider have enriched me in one way or other.

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