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Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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post #35

What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!

For what? Imagine a world without Javascript? You have mini extension in browser to just auto refresh gmail

Imagine a world without Javascript?

What a dream.

Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…

Marketing move. Same reason they shoehorned constructors into a prototype based language. Java was all the rage in '95.

Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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post #35

What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!

For what? Imagine a world without Javascript? You have mini extension in browser to just auto refresh gmail

That was called an IMAP client. It was fine.

Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being limited but safe may be the reason that JavaScript has won out over Java. As I recall, applets turned out to be a security nightmare.

Also, Javascript didn't require a compiler, and Java applets were notoriously slow.

I'm not sure JavaScript was any faster than Java at the time.

I blame the failure of Java applets on Microsoft who deliberately undermined them.

Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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Nothing technically wrong with Java and JS of course, but this terrible PR piece which desperately tries to pitch Java as an integral part of the web, going even as far as naming an innocent scripting language for web browsers JAVA script truly demonstrates that the mid-to-end-90's were the dark age of computing (at least the corporate side).

Well I don't know if you are joking, but back then it was the other way around. They put Java into JavaScript to pitch JavaScript... I guess it worked almost too good...

Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…

Not only the name, but also the C-like syntax was borrowed from Java because of marketing reasons, despite the semantics were inspired by quite different languages such as Scheme and Self. What a pity!

Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

#49

I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated. > Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterpris…

> Did Java applets actually have a JS API?

It was possible to expose something:

https://www.codejava.net/java-se/applet/liveconnect-the-api-...

Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)

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post #35

What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!

For what? Imagine a world without Javascript? You have mini extension in browser to just auto refresh gmail

>For what? Imagine a world without Javascript?

What a pleasant way to begin my day. Thank you for this moment of bliss.

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