What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!
Struggle sessions were still horrible Maoist actions back then, not the "progressive" thing some call for them to be today. :P
Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)
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Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)
#32I recall being at a local (Detroit) IT seminar around the time Javascript was announced, and some guy from Sun with an English accent going on and on about how safe javascript would be, since it couldn't access local resources and they had purposefully left out a lot of functions that could compromise the user. It's changed a bit since then, I'd say.
Being limited but safe may be the reason that JavaScript has won out over Java. As I recall, applets turned out to be a security nightmare.
Also, Javascript didn't require a compiler, and Java applets were notoriously slow.
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#33> A server-side JavaScript script might pull data out of a relational database and format it in HTML on the fly I didn't know that server-side JS was a thing back then.
It wasn't. They basically predicted Node.js 15 years before its inception. EDIT: Okay, server-side JS indeed long predates Node.js. See below.
It was also an option for IIS as well as vbscript in classic ASP pages.
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#34> A server-side JavaScript script might pull data out of a relational database and format it in HTML on the fly I didn't know that server-side JS was a thing back then.
It wasn't. They basically predicted Node.js 15 years before its inception. EDIT: Okay, server-side JS indeed long predates Node.js. See below.
It was. I developed sites using Netscape Livewire, the server side JS in Netscape Enterprise Server. It was probably closer to ASP and PHP scripting, mixing HTML, client-side JS, and server-side JS in the same file.
Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)
#35What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!
For what? Imagine a world without Javascript? You have mini extension in browser to just auto refresh gmail
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#36I still don't know why they stuck the "Java" name on JavaScript. Very confusing when the two languages are completely unrelated.
> Java programs and JavaScript scripts are designed to run on both clients and servers, with JavaScript scripts used to modify the properties and behavior of Java objects, so the range of live online applications that dynamically present information to and interact with users over enterprise networks or the Internet is virtually unlimited.
Was this level of integration ever achieved? Did Java applets actually have a JS API? Or is this just corporate double speak.
Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)
#37What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!
Its created got fired from his job as CEO for creating it, isn't that punishment enough?
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#38Nothing technically wrong with Java and JS of course, but this terrible PR piece which desperately tries to pitch Java as an integral part of the web, going even as far as naming an innocent scripting language for web browsers JAVA script truly demonstrates that the mid-to-end-90's were the dark age of computing (at least the corporate side).
Java was the most buzzwordy thing imaginable back then. Everything was Java Java Java
Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)
#39What bothers me is that they actually never apologised. A simple statement of acknowledging the damage caused would do!
the surface is wide to carry
Re: Netscape and Sun Announce JavaScript (1995)
#40... and still looks like it hasn't aged a day in some ways. https://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/10/every-day-i-learn-something...
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