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Are they talking about spreading it through breathing, or through touching?
> The estimated risk of infection from touching a contaminated surface was low (less than 5 in 10,000)
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.27.20220905v...
I hate to be that person, but I'm personally more worried about the virus mutating under the increased selection pressure. We only defeated polio with a >99% effective vaccine, and the research for this vaccine isn't even available.
Unlike older vaccines (such as polio vaccine) which generally used weakened or killed whole virus particles (and which occasionally produced infectious cases, due to the virus not being as weak or dead as intended), this vaccine contains no whole virus particles and thus cannot result in an infectious case. It contains RNA that cause the patient's cells to emit proteins normally produced by the viral infection (which…
Over my dead body (one way or another).
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There's a clever little meme floating about showing a perfectly normal, happy, healthy, unmasked family with the caption "conspiracy theorists" and then in the adjacent panel a visibly paranoid person with a mask and face shield captioned "normal person". Cheap, but clever.
Uh, this is probably a cultural thing, but I don't get it? Can you please explain it to me? As in, what's "cheap but clever" about it?
Now, that's "normal people", while "conspiracy theorists" are those carrying on unfazed.
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There's a clever little meme floating about showing a perfectly normal, happy, healthy, unmasked family with the caption "conspiracy theorists" and then in the adjacent panel a visibly paranoid person with a mask and face shield captioned "normal person". Cheap, but clever.
Uh, this is probably a cultural thing, but I don't get it? Can you please explain it to me? As in, what's "cheap but clever" about it?
The meme highlights the big change in 2020 in which most people have accepted the reality of the Covid-19 pandemic and seek to reduce transmission risk by wearing a mask, avoiding close human contact and socially interactions. People that are not taking these precautions are justifying their actions to not wear masks by claiming that there is a conspiracy and that Covid-19 is all made up. Because they are not socially distancing or wearing masks they look like pre-2020 normal people, at least until they end up in the ICU.
It doesn't really get reported widely, but scientific studies have indicated that, logically, people who have worse cases of the virus are more contagious. [0] [1] It is highly likely that the vast majority of people given the mRNA vaccines, which are 90+% effective in eliminating symptoms, will be very minimally contagious. Studies are pending, but there's no reason to believe that teaching your immune system to destroy the virus wouldn't also make less virus to be shed to infect other people.
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Unlike older vaccines (such as polio vaccine) which generally used weakened or killed whole virus particles (and which occasionally produced infectious cases, due to the virus not being as weak or dead as intended), this vaccine contains no whole virus particles and thus cannot result in an infectious case. It contains RNA that cause the patient's cells to emit proteins normally produced by the viral infection (which…
Not that I agree with GPs concern, but this comment doesn't address it whatsoever.
The Pfizer chairman is saying he doesn't know whether you can get a spreadable COVID-19 infection after the vaccine has been administered, but before it takes full effect.
That's an entirely different thing from the vaccination CAUSING an infectious case of COVID-19.
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Uh, this is probably a cultural thing, but I don't get it? Can you please explain it to me? As in, what's "cheap but clever" about it?
The stereotypical conspiracy theorist hides away at home with tin foil head-coverings to keep the mysterious airborne pathogens away. Now, that's "normal people", while "conspiracy theorists" are those carrying on unfazed.
Conspiracy theorists are the ones who deny science.
Conspiracy theorists are the ones who refuse vaccines without reason.
Conspiracy theorists are the ones who believe in large scale fraud with no evidence.
Conspiracy theorists are the ones who think "This virus is a hoax".
I guess any of the above could also qualify for straight up stupidity, not just conspiracy theories.
Normal, sane, people follow science and act with compassion for their fellow man.
Wear a mask. It's not hard, I do it 8 hours a day.
I apologize for the rant.
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Unlike older vaccines (such as polio vaccine) which generally used weakened or killed whole virus particles (and which occasionally produced infectious cases, due to the virus not being as weak or dead as intended), this vaccine contains no whole virus particles and thus cannot result in an infectious case. It contains RNA that cause the patient's cells to emit proteins normally produced by the viral infection (which…
There is absolutely 0% chance I'll be letting that anywhere near my family. And I was a biomedical scientist formerly. Over my dead body (one way or another).
I hope any children you may have are 18.
> And I was a biomedical scientist formerly.
Well we can see why it was formerly.
> Over my dead body (one way or another).
Could we maybe avoid putting others at risk?
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Unlike older vaccines (such as polio vaccine) which generally used weakened or killed whole virus particles (and which occasionally produced infectious cases, due to the virus not being as weak or dead as intended), this vaccine contains no whole virus particles and thus cannot result in an infectious case. It contains RNA that cause the patient's cells to emit proteins normally produced by the viral infection (which…
There is absolutely 0% chance I'll be letting that anywhere near my family. And I was a biomedical scientist formerly. Over my dead body (one way or another).
I certainly intend to stay masked up post-jab(s). I think a month or so after the final dose it will be at the point where any viral load i might be spreading would be pretty much trustable to be at trivial levels, so that's my minimum duration. After that, I'll continue to follow public guidance from local health folks. I don't mind masking up for flights/travel for a bit, or whatever, either, if it shakes out that…