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A chain cuts through a capsized cargo ship filled with cars

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Re: A chain cuts through a capsized cargo ship filled with cars

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Hah. "They both break things by applying force. Amazing coincidence"

Both breaking ships though.

And by applying upward force to a localized point beneath the ships.

I actually found the comparison fairly helpful.

Re: A chain cuts through a capsized cargo ship filled with cars

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Until the intern decides that running a nut up 30 feet of threaded rod is silly, uses two rods, and you have the Hyatt-Regency. :-)

Context for those who don't know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse Years ago, I was a computer science major at Tulane University. At the time, Tulane put CS in the school of engineering, so every first year had to take a mandatory engineering safety class. The first day of class, they turned off the lights and played a home movie that was recorded during the dance at the Hyatt-Regecy. The…

Your resume says LSU though...

Re: A chain cuts through a capsized cargo ship filled with cars

#133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Context for those who don't know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse Years ago, I was a computer science major at Tulane University. At the time, Tulane put CS in the school of engineering, so every first year had to take a mandatory engineering safety class. The first day of class, they turned off the lights and played a home movie that was recorded during the dance at the Hyatt-Regecy. The…

Your resume says LSU though...

I dropped out of Tulane after a few months.

Re: A chain cuts through a capsized cargo ship filled with cars

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post #79

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Until the intern decides that running a nut up 30 feet of threaded rod is silly, uses two rods, and you have the Hyatt-Regency. :-)

When someone tries to tell my hypothetical intern about the Hyatt Regency I'm gonna use that to teach them a lesson about bike shedding. The gist of the lesson will be that "had the person who brought it up actually meant to be helpful instead of just showing off about how much they care about Safety(TM) they would have brought up that jet liner that kept falling apart because of the square corners in the hatch or so…

I'm afraid I have no idea what you're trying to say.

("[T]hat jet liner that kept falling apart because of the square corners in the hatch" is the DeHavilland Comet, BTW.)

Re: A chain cuts through a capsized cargo ship filled with cars

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What astounds me is that the "cutting chain" appears to be just a normal chain, albeit a very large one. I would have thought they would have made something that cuts it more like a giant chainsaw.

At these scales, and being able to use the hull's weight against itself, that chain is plenty "sharp" just by itself, I guess (sharpness being the ability to concentrate force on a comparatively small surface area). Adding teeth to the chain would probably not be worth it and/or they would just dull or break soon anyway.

Yes, I think this is the right intuition. Given the size and weight of the hull, physics is operating at a different scale and “sharp” looks quite different from our daily experiences.

It reminds me of a Fermi estimate that my physics professor presented of how tall the tallest mountain on Earth or a generic planet of mass M could be. He started with the intuition that when the weight of a mountain overcomes the typical strength of chemical bonds, what we typically experience as “solid” rock will behave like a liquid and collapse.

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