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Re: Stripe Treasury

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This is a bit harsh. Stripe's value add is handing you an API and doing all of the hard work behind the scenes, same as Twilio (integrating with far flung telco gateways with byzantine interfaces). It's not necessary for Stripe to handle payment flows or issue cards themselves. Success is if customers are willing to pay Stripe instead of wrangling all of those vendors together themselves (which sounds like a good bet…

I'm not reading it as criticism. Considering Stripe forbids financial services in their t&c's, and this allows Stripe users to implement financial services, the question is, what kind of financial services are now allowed? Would be great to hear a few use cases for Treasury that can't be done with existing Connect platform (and which fall within t&c's). Genuinely curious.

Suppose a driver for a rideshare app wants to pay their car payment.

Stripe Connect can't be used to hold funds from many rides for a month; they have to pay it out to a bank account (which they might not have) or to a disbursement card, which (because loan repayments are generally not paid on a card in the U.S.) likely doesn't solve their problem without withdrawing cash and buying a money order. That is extra effort and cost for the driver.

Stripe Treasury would let the rideshare platform give their drivers an embedded money management account. That would allow indefinitely holding money, and would allow them to use e.g. bill pay for car payments, similar to the way that many HNers probably pay their own car payments today.

This is good for the platform (solves a pain point for many drivers) and good for the drivers (they get faster access to their funds, decreasing the likelihood they'll get dinged for a late repayment, and can spend less of their time managing low-value-added money movement when they could instead be driving).

Re: Stripe Treasury

#92
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Hi everyone, I’m Tara, PM on Stripe Treasury. Treasury is a banking-as-a-service API for platforms—built in partnership with the world’s leading banks. Embed interest-earning accounts, bill pay, ACH and wire transfers, and faster access to revenue directly in your platform. Happy to answer any questions here—and I’d love to hear your feedback!

"Financial services" are verbatim not allowed by Stripe's Acceptable Use Policy. What kind of businesses are permitted to use Stripe Treasury? Which functionality is specifically provided (or anticipated to be provided) by Goldman Sachs Bank? The answer is probably a credit card. Who performs KYC? Is it Stripe FTEs, Stripe contractors, or a vendor? Is it Evolve's vendor? The answer is probably a vendor. When submitti…

The nice thing about being Stripe is they can decide what the terms are. I'm sure they thought this through.

Re: Stripe Treasury

#93
It's great Stripe is coming up with new services and changing how we do business online. Most purchases are now happening online, subscription based services are on rise and consumer buying habit is changing as well.

I like Stripe and I use Stripe for my business. What I don't like about Stripe is they stepping on toes of their customers. Stripe starts with API service and later they introduce their product competing with early adopters. A good example is Stripe Billing [0]. Additionally, they position their products top on their partners page, therefore making it "popular". I wouldn't be surprised to see Stripe launching their own virtual bank product.

[0] https://stripe.com/billing [1] https://stripe.com/partners/apps-and-extensions/collection/r...

Re: Stripe Treasury

#94

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I also edited out something unnecessary. But maybe Stripe could be pushing back against those limitations or helping to find other solutions. Apple seems to be able to (see Grindr).

>Apple seems to be able to (see Grindr). Can you please elaborate on this?

You pay for a Grindr subscription through Apple using IAP. Grindr presumably wouldn’t be allowed to use Stripe given their terms of use.

If one wanted to create something like Grindr but as a website instead of an app, the options for payment are extremely limited.

Re: Stripe Treasury

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post #91
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not reading it as criticism. Considering Stripe forbids financial services in their t&c's, and this allows Stripe users to implement financial services, the question is, what kind of financial services are now allowed? Would be great to hear a few use cases for Treasury that can't be done with existing Connect platform (and which fall within t&c's). Genuinely curious.

Suppose a driver for a rideshare app wants to pay their car payment. Stripe Connect can't be used to hold funds from many rides for a month; they have to pay it out to a bank account (which they might not have) or to a disbursement card, which (because loan repayments are generally not paid on a card in the U.S.) likely doesn't solve their problem without withdrawing cash and buying a money order. That is extra effor…

Wouldn't it be way easier and better for the driver to just open a bank account? Why would they want to tie something as important as making car payments to their ephemeral gig work?

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I recommend mercury.com. Amazing in basically every way IMO.

Yeah Mercury and some other startup banks looks great, but at least Mercury appears to be business-only. I need something that works for business & personal. (And I have no doubt they'll all expand to handle both personal & business, but I'm impatient ;)

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Re: Stripe Treasury

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Will this support paper checks that can be written on the spot by a client?

Money management accounts created with Stripe Treasury can send bill payments, which depending on the payee may be delivered entirely electronically or as checks. We have no current intentions of making printable paper checks a feature, but please get in touch if you have a compelling use case for that that isn’t solved by online bill pay. The accounts can also do both push and pull ACH payments. While we do not curr…

Request submitted. It can be solved by bill-pay, our older clients will want a checkbook to hand checks to vendors on delivery for items which will have them setting up a local bank account for that. Remote Deposit is key for any non-profit/political account as they get mailed a lot of checks.

Re: Stripe Treasury

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"Financial services" are verbatim not allowed by Stripe's Acceptable Use Policy. What kind of businesses are permitted to use Stripe Treasury? Which functionality is specifically provided (or anticipated to be provided) by Goldman Sachs Bank? The answer is probably a credit card. Who performs KYC? Is it Stripe FTEs, Stripe contractors, or a vendor? Is it Evolve's vendor? The answer is probably a vendor. When submitti…

Stripe Treasury does not violate our terms, and allows SaaS platforms (and similar) to provide their business users with access to capabilities which are regulated with those capabilities fulfilled by entities with the appropriate licensing and backed by our financial partners. This is similar to how our Connect product lets our regulated entity do money transmission on behalf of a demand economy company without them…

> Stripe Treasury does not violate our terms, and allows SaaS platforms (and similar) to provide their business users with access to capabilities which are regulated with those capabilities fulfilled by entities with the appropriate licensing and backed by our financial partners.

Ha? What does this mean?

Re: Stripe Treasury

#100
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There's a reason "marketplaces" get a call out on this landing page. Every single startup that has to manage buyers and sellers ends up needing to implement their own bespoke "treasury" operations. There are other players in this space (Modern Treasury for example), but obviously the distinct Stripe advantage is integrating with the payment stack. This would have saved years of development efforts and maintenance on…

This has an incredible amount of potential in the events space --- I'm excited to see what new advances this tech will enable

Seems like that would be more inline with the stripe connect platform.
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