Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users • Hacker News Board

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by tkgally » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 1:29 PM UTC

jaclaz wrote: post #14

I don't know. Is it "English only"? I just searched on it for: CR2032 "due fili" ("due fili" means "two wires" in Italian) i.e. the button battery for RTC/CMOS on portables And results are essentially "completely random" pages without neither CR2032 nor "due fili", most notably second result is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States and third is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_relationship_manageme...

I tried a few searches in Japanese. The results for search terms written in kanji were okay, but searches for terms written in kana—such as アメリカ or ぴかぴか—yielded no results at all.

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by rjknight » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 1:33 PM UTC

"Dao" here is probably not a reference to Daoism, but to "decentralised autonomous organisations".

Most often this is just a cyberpunky way of trying to avoid either tax or legal liability, but I'm not sure that either necessarily apply here. It would be interesting to know how the project is structured and funded.

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by pembrook » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 2:04 PM UTC

Is this just a rebrand of bing’s results like DuckDuckGo?

Or is there proprietary tech behind this?

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by ralphc » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

How often is this indexed? I have a great example for today, December 3rd. Yesterday, Salesforce announced a new product, Hyperforce. It's a new way to deploy their product, basically a big deal from a big company. Searching Salesforce Hyperforce gets no results in rightdao, plenty in duckduckgo.

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by ColinHayhurst » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

jhoechtl wrote: post #19

I want this to succeed. I have been searching for a while for a search engine which is independent from Google or Bing. First searches have been relevant and also refreshing different and new from the big ones. Battle-testing will tell.

I maintain this list of search engines:

https://twitter.com/SearchEngineMap/lists

Disclosure: Mojeek team member

Happy to add Right Dao but did not find it on Twitter.

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by ivyabc » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 4:46 PM UTC

NonEUCitizen wrote: post #4

Re: "independent," how are you funded (so you can pay for infrastructure)? Are you independent of VCs? of governments?

Currently our scale is small and the cost is manageable. We are not funded by venture capitals or governments.

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by ivyabc » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 4:47 PM UTC

drannex wrote: post #6

Do you have your own indexer or are you relying on others?

We have our own crawler and indexing.

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by ivyabc » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 4:48 PM UTC

pembrook wrote: post #23

Is this just a rebrand of bing’s results like DuckDuckGo? Or is there proprietary tech behind this?

No, we use Kubernetes, grpc and protobuf as base, Prometheus and Grafana for monitoring. Our systems are mostly in C++, with some in Go such as crawler. No open source tool is used for indexing and search.

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by ivyabc » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 4:50 PM UTC

ralphc wrote: post #24

How often is this indexed? I have a great example for today, December 3rd. Yesterday, Salesforce announced a new product, Hyperforce. It's a new way to deploy their product, basically a big deal from a big company. Searching Salesforce Hyperforce gets no results in rightdao, plenty in duckduckgo.

We don't have incremental indexing yet, so we have to replace the entire index with newer results once a while. Incremental index is on our roadmap.

However, our news search is updated every hour, and Salesforce Hyperforce has new results.

https://rightdao.com/search?q=Salesforce+Hyperforce&type=new...

Re: Right Dao, a new independent search engine that doesn't track users

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Post by ivyabc » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 4:53 PM UTC

benboughton1 wrote: post #15

I like it, but how is it funded? Can I submit a site to be indexed?

Currently our scale is small and the cost is manageable. Please send your site to the email address in the about us page. (We don't have incremental indexing yet, so we have to replace the entire index with newer results once a while.)