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AWS just went multi-cloud

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Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

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EKS Anywhere sounds promising, but I fear the data transfer charges between the two.

Yes is there an optimistic take on this problem? Any indication that something like AWS EKS multi-cloud will sidestep it? Every time I read one of these announcements I just shudder to think about how the costs will scale.

Are most multi-cloud setups just very careful about intra-cloud data transfers?

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

#12

I wonder if Amazon’s theory here is that by offering multi-cloud support they can put decision makers at ease when choosing cloud vendors by making them feel like they’re not getting locked into AWS - but Amazon also expects most customers to mostly only use AWS out of convenience Disclaimer - I used to work for AWS

Is working at AWS hellish? Or once you get in it's just a normal job?

I get its heavily dependent on the team, just wondering from your perspective.

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

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Posts like these always seem buried in deep marketing lingo. Can anyone "in the know" ELI5 how this is different than Google Anthos? [1] If they are in fact similar, I can't help but be left wondering why ACG didn't devote at least a sentence or two to comparisons that already exist in the industry. [1] https://cloud.google.com/anthos

The post does mention Azure's Arc and Sentinel, but definitely should have called out Anthos specifically. The interesting part of this to me isn't so much that other solutions already exist -- Azure and GCP, due to their catch-up position, have always been far more conciliatory toward the reality of other cloud workloads than AWS. It's that AWS is signaling, however grudgingly, that they will have to play ball with…

Thanks for pointing that out. Unfortunately, still no mention [in the post] of how Azure's Arc/Sentinel is different than what AWS has seemingly built here. And agreed, it's an interesting signal.

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

#14

I wonder if Amazon’s theory here is that by offering multi-cloud support they can put decision makers at ease when choosing cloud vendors by making them feel like they’re not getting locked into AWS - but Amazon also expects most customers to mostly only use AWS out of convenience Disclaimer - I used to work for AWS

That's a possibility. Another one would be more out of regulatory requirement within financial services. By default, most top tier banks would need multi-cloud to even begin thinking about a cloud journey so this offering just puts AWS in the right space with their competitors. It's possible that most of the operational workloads will run on AWS with other cloud vendors being in place as backup/secondary workloads. Might also be some good discounts given by AWS to secure the deal.

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

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Posts like these always seem buried in deep marketing lingo. Can anyone "in the know" ELI5 how this is different than Google Anthos? [1] If they are in fact similar, I can't help but be left wondering why ACG didn't devote at least a sentence or two to comparisons that already exist in the industry. [1] https://cloud.google.com/anthos

The post does mention Azure's Arc and Sentinel, but definitely should have called out Anthos specifically. The interesting part of this to me isn't so much that other solutions already exist -- Azure and GCP, due to their catch-up position, have always been far more conciliatory toward the reality of other cloud workloads than AWS. It's that AWS is signaling, however grudgingly, that they will have to play ball with…

Hi Forrest, hopefully constructive feedback - your choice of font color (rgb(74, 93, 133) I think) for text overtop #fff background is extremely washed out for me, not quite unreadable but heading in that direction. I might suggest a darker choice of font color for better readability, I just gave up trying to finish reading the article due to eye strain.

Edit, screenshot: https://postimg.cc/kRmGmSJh

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post does mention Azure's Arc and Sentinel, but definitely should have called out Anthos specifically. The interesting part of this to me isn't so much that other solutions already exist -- Azure and GCP, due to their catch-up position, have always been far more conciliatory toward the reality of other cloud workloads than AWS. It's that AWS is signaling, however grudgingly, that they will have to play ball with…

Hi Forrest, hopefully constructive feedback - your choice of font color (rgb(74, 93, 133) I think) for text overtop #fff background is extremely washed out for me, not quite unreadable but heading in that direction. I might suggest a darker choice of font color for better readability, I just gave up trying to finish reading the article due to eye strain. Edit, screenshot: https://postimg.cc/kRmGmSJh

Thanks for this feedback - will share with the ACG design team.

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

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Isn't EKS just Kubernetes with custom integrations for various AWS services? If so, how do you meaningfully bring EKS to another cloud without bringing those services? Does EKS call over the public Internet into those other AWS services (and thus lower latency, paying for network usage, etc)? If so, what's the advantage of running EKS anywhere other than on Amazon?

Presumably with EKS you can already run your worker nodes on prem or on GCP or wherever, so is this just moving the masters over as well? If you're willing to run your other AWS services on AWS, what's the big advantage of running EKS outside of Amazon as well?

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

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I wonder if Amazon’s theory here is that by offering multi-cloud support they can put decision makers at ease when choosing cloud vendors by making them feel like they’re not getting locked into AWS - but Amazon also expects most customers to mostly only use AWS out of convenience Disclaimer - I used to work for AWS

See Jeff Bezos' famous comment: "It is better to cannibalize yourself; than let others cannibalize you"

This should answer your question and hint what's to come.

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

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Don’t read too much into this — they are just catching up with GCP and Azure here. AWS has a history of introducing half-assed products with great fanfare when the lack of such a product could be a disadvantage for customer acquisition (think Beanstalk, Cognito or Amplify).

Re: AWS just went multi-cloud

#20

Isn't EKS just Kubernetes with custom integrations for various AWS services? If so, how do you meaningfully bring EKS to another cloud without bringing those services? Does EKS call over the public Internet into those other AWS services (and thus lower latency, paying for network usage, etc)? If so, what's the advantage of running EKS anywhere other than on Amazon? Presumably with EKS you can already run your worker…

Good questions. I'd guess you'd have to make interface pods for those services if possible maybe?

Then before switching providers write new interface pods?

Sounds easier said than done but I guess that's one option.

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