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My Phone Was Spying on Me, So I Tracked Down the Surveillants
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let’s not beat around the bush here: this is a uniquely Android problem. Sure, there are some iOS jailbreaks out in the wild, but these are very few and far between. There was one for then-recent iOS versions earlier this year, but it came many years after the previous jailbreak of that kind. Superuser access to my iOS device isn’t something I need to worry about. But if I ran Android? It would be a real threat.
He consented to the collection and Apple would have exactly the same issues. Also Android is marginally more useful than an iOS device. I know that it is fancy as a music player and social media apps, but it isn't really what it could be.
> He consented to the collection and Apple would have exactly the same issues.
Would it? In iOS you can selectively forbid applications from using locations services.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Being screwed over like this is illegal More precisely, these agreements generally aren't legally binding in Europe, but generally are legally binding in the US.
True; although who knows what would hold up in court if anyone was to file a lawsuit based on some of these "digital contracts" we agree to every time we click "I agree".
I have a feeling that a judge would want to find them invalid, but what happens if he/she rules that they are non-binding? The chaos it would cause for US B2C businesses would be large. This alone may sway the courts to make them binding.
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#24> “I agree,” I pressed. We had now made a binding agreement, the app and I. I hate this whole premise. We have to agree to an incomprehensible text wall of vague legal nonsense, that very often violate our own laws (as in this case), in order to install an app. These illegal contracts are completely void of any meaning, and it should not matter that you "agreed" to be screwed over like that. Being screwed over like t…
> Being screwed over like this is illegal More precisely, these agreements generally aren't legally binding in Europe, but generally are legally binding in the US.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Being screwed over like this is illegal More precisely, these agreements generally aren't legally binding in Europe, but generally are legally binding in the US.
True; although who knows what would hold up in court if anyone was to file a lawsuit based on some of these "digital contracts" we agree to every time we click "I agree".
The TOS of any European company cannot supersede the law of the European Union.
Example; how one individual singlehandedy forced the hands of Spotify to reverse an API decision they made blocking the export of your playlists. Note how Spotify thinks their TOS supersedes the GDPR. It does not. Otherwise, we would have corporations directly creating laws.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
True; although who knows what would hold up in court if anyone was to file a lawsuit based on some of these "digital contracts" we agree to every time we click "I agree".
I have a feeling that a judge would want to find them invalid, but what happens if he/she rules that they are non-binding? The chaos it would cause for US B2C businesses would be large. This alone may sway the courts to make them binding.
> This alone may sway the courts to make them binding.
I'm afraid you are correct, but hasn't the whole system collapsed if:
- Is this good for our businesses?
is is part of your consideration when you are trying to find out if something is illegal or not?
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#27The thread also mentions https://nrkbeta.no/2020/12/03/my-phone-was-spying-on-me-so-i... which would be a better link than twitter.
Much more readable in Thread reader form:
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#28Interesting article.
Is there any way to mitigate the amount of data collected?
If I turn GPS off can they still track my steps?
One thing that I notice frequently is discussing some topic with my wife and then finding an AD related to the topic on Instagram, LinkedIn, and whatnot. Could be a coincidence but I not sure any more.
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#29The thread also mentions https://nrkbeta.no/2020/12/03/my-phone-was-spying-on-me-so-i... which would be a better link than twitter.
That is a fantastic but very unsettling article. It's a somewhat dystopian present we live in
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#30The problem we are beginning to see is the unwillingness, chaos, and confusion on how exactly to enforce GDPR. This is concerning; no repercussions will eventually lead to where we were before.