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A Japanese shop is 1,020 years old

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Re: A Japanese shop is 1,020 years old

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What I absolutely love about this comment is that I feel exactly the opposite. Love mugi tororo and cannot figure out how eel is popular at all.

You mean the delicious barbequed fish with fatty meat that melts in your mouth doesnt seem like it should be popular? Its like fois gras of the sea.

Unagi should be the freshwater eel but yes tell me more about the fatty meat goodness that’s so delicious.

Re: A Japanese shop is 1,020 years old

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Do shops like these mostly inherited? I'm also aware of Japan's adult adoptions. Is there pressure on the next gen. to take over the family business? I would think yes. In my mind, just imagining operating for a Millennium, these institutions are more temples than businesses. Brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it. Thankfully the practice is not very widespread as I could easily have found myself taking care…

Oh no, owning property and having a place in the community. What a nightmare.

This sort of thing might appeal to some people, but a lot of people would not be at all keen on having their life pre-determined by what their ancestors did.

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The documentary Jiro Dreams of Sushi has a poignant commentary on this. Jiro's oldest son is expected to eventually take over Jiro's sushi place, so as a result essentially is toiling for his father into old age. On the other hand, somewhat ironically Jiro's younger son actually has more freedom, so he strikes out on his own pretty early and has his own very successful sushi joint.

> The documentary Jiro Dreams of Sushi has a poignant commentary on this. Jiro's oldest son is expected to eventually take over Jiro's sushi place, so as a result essentially is toiling for his father into old age. On the other hand, somewhat ironically Jiro's younger son actually has more freedom, so he strikes out on his own pretty early and has his own very successful sushi joint. IIRC, that's wrong. The documenta…

The poignant thing that I remember (possibly mis-remembering exact numbers) is that in 20 or 30 years Jiro had only taken one day off from work, to attend his father's funeral.

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Or you can read it as "social pressure to do something for your entire life that you don't really want to do."

that's what maturation into adulthood is, taking responsibility for social institutions that are larger than oneself and endure longer than oneself, rather than being a 35 year old owning nothing and playing paintball, which is, in contrast to the business culture on display here the future sold to us by the beloved SV companies. Most of which if I had to bet will not last longer than this store.

If everyone took this approach, we'd all be working on family subsistence farms.

Though, actually, even agriculture was originally presumably a dangerous and tradition-breaking innovation. Possibly we'd all be doing family hunter-gathering.

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The crusades too. Too many second and third sons this too many knights. Inherit, clergy or war.

Yes. A son in the Church was sort of a hot-swappable backup, as the Church would cut him loose if you had a good reason, such as the primary heir having died (and, of course, subject to the payment of a ...modest donation...), but while he was in the Church he was no threat to the primary. Any children he himself had (this was far from unheard of) would be automatically be illegitimate and not in the line of successi…

Sounds like Harvard

Re: A Japanese shop is 1,020 years old

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> The Japanese companies that have endured the longest have often been defined by an aversion to risk — shaped in part by past crises — and an accumulation of large cash reserves.

> It is a common trait among Japanese enterprises and part of the reason that the country has so far avoided the high bankruptcy rates of the United States during the pandemic.

I live in Japan (I'm not Japanese).

From experience, the first paragraph above rings true for many, especially smaller/family-run, businesses.

But jumping to the conclusion in the second paragraph is a stretch. By making such a facile and generalized statement and leaving it at that, the article ignores that the Japanese government's measures since the pandemic started have in many ways prioritized economic health over individual health, and that is one reason why business in general has not been as hard hit here.

For instance, Japan actually instituted "Go To Travel" and "Go To Eat" campaigns to stimulate the economy during the pandemic. Criminally irresponsible in my view.

Japanese pandemic response has also largely been ignoring the reality of aerosol transmission, evidenced by issuing compliance certifications (basically a sticker businesses can put on their door) even to businesses that promote indoor eating and other activities where safety from aerosol transmission cannot be maintained.

In fact, even if the Japanese government wanted to take stronger measures, my understanding is that legally they can't - so there has never been a mandatory lockdown here. All we had was a voluntary lockdown around April.

To put it bluntly, Japanese businesses are largely doing well because all cessation of economic activity so far has been completely voluntary, while the government has taken steps that do more to play down the pandemic threat.

Conversely, the main reason that the Japanese people are so far doing relatively better than say the US (in spite of the government's best attempts to fail at pandemic policy), seems to be that nearly everybody wears a mask whenever possible. Coupled with a few other social factors such as less talking in public spaces and less physical contact especially between strangers.

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Oh no, owning property and having a place in the community. What a nightmare.

A lot of us do not want to work in the family business but rather want to pursue our dreams. You only have the one life after all.

Dumbass!

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I would hazard to say it is only in relative recent history (and in capitalism) that new and adventurous = prosperity. For much of history, leaving behind what you know was no guarantee of success (and maybe great risk of material poverty).

> I would hazard to say it is only in relative recent history (and in capitalism) that new and adventurous = prosperity. For much of history, leaving behind what you know was no guarantee of success (and maybe great risk of material poverty). That hasn't really changed. Taking risk is no guarantee of success. Sure, some risk takers win big, but some people win the lottery, too.

Oh I would say it has changed a lot throughout history. For quite a long time, setting out on your own from your family, profession, town, etc. was a great risk, and there was nowhere near the social/economic mobility that we have today.

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Leave it, store the 11th bit in the top bit of the first byte of the company name. That'll future proof us.

I played a game that implemented something like this. A player could have 32 buffs simultaneously, and on release there were fewer than 255 unique buffs. The id for each buff was stored in one byte and was bundled along with all of the other buffs into a much larger packet which also contained other player data. The game later surpassed 255 unique buffs. Rather than change the packet structure, they repurposed a grou…

Or use compression, people used to do that.

Re: A Japanese shop is 1,020 years old

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Do shops like these mostly inherited? I'm also aware of Japan's adult adoptions. Is there pressure on the next gen. to take over the family business? I would think yes. In my mind, just imagining operating for a Millennium, these institutions are more temples than businesses. Brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it. Thankfully the practice is not very widespread as I could easily have found myself taking care…

Oh no, owning property and having a place in the community. What a nightmare.

Meanwhile, what's the slogan being pushed by the World Economic Forum: "2030: you'll own nothing and you'll be happy." Raite...
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