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Boeing's upgraded 737 Max completes first flight with media onboard

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Re: Boeing's upgraded 737 Max completes first flight with media onboard

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Post by 8ytecoder »

jimbob45 wrote: post #6
ogre_codes wrote: post #2

In a weird way, having the Max grounded during 2020 turned out to be lucky timing on Boeing's part. The airlines slowdown due to COVID likely gave them some serious breathing room while they got their shit together. Now hopefully they actually did get their shit together.

I think I disagree. If they’d taken the time to scrap the 737 Max and move to a new design, they’d have had the time and the public would have eaten the new product up. Instead, they doubled down and are now going to try to have to sell a product that many will refuse to ever fly on, myself included.

There are enough people who have no idea what a 737 Max is. I'm sure there would be enough flights and associated data before I have to fly again.

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Post by throwaway4good »

glaucon wrote: post #3

"In another display of confidence, European budget airline Ryanair was set to place a hefty order for up to 75 additional 737 MAX jets, industry sources said." A Ryanair spokesperson said "It's the first time we've ever been offered a discount in excess of 100%"

Discount in excess of 100%? So they were paid to brake them?

Makes sense for Ryan to start doing negative prices for their flights. Making profit on the bus fare into city and baggage fees.

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Post by throwaway201103 »

jimbob45 wrote: post #6
ogre_codes wrote: post #2

In a weird way, having the Max grounded during 2020 turned out to be lucky timing on Boeing's part. The airlines slowdown due to COVID likely gave them some serious breathing room while they got their shit together. Now hopefully they actually did get their shit together.

I think I disagree. If they’d taken the time to scrap the 737 Max and move to a new design, they’d have had the time and the public would have eaten the new product up. Instead, they doubled down and are now going to try to have to sell a product that many will refuse to ever fly on, myself included.

The original 737 had some early issues also. Tail rudder problems that resulted in crashes is one that comes to mind. They were fixed and now nobody thinks twice about flying them and their long-term safety record is excellent.

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Post by Xenoamorphous »

DevX101 wrote: post #7

I recently had the frivolous idea of creating a flight search engine for flights that DID NOT use the 737 Max. Any actual interest in this?

Are airlines even obliged to disclose the type of plane? One of them even changed the type of plane and destination airport (same city though) for one of my flights.

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Post by judge2020 »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #14
DevX101 wrote: post #7

I recently had the frivolous idea of creating a flight search engine for flights that DID NOT use the 737 Max. Any actual interest in this?

Are airlines even obliged to disclose the type of plane? One of them even changed the type of plane and destination airport (same city though) for one of my flights.

I don't think they're obligated, but Delta does provide that information currently.

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Post by phinnaeus »

DevX101 wrote: post #7

I recently had the frivolous idea of creating a flight search engine for flights that DID NOT use the 737 Max. Any actual interest in this?

I would be interested in such a search engine, if it allowed me to use positive filters rather than just a single negative 737MAX filter.

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Post by MattGaiser »

aphextron wrote: post #10
fred_is_fred wrote: post #4

Given the recent news about delivery services (UPS, Fedex, Amazon) having constraints on capacity this would be a great time for them to invest in some planes. I assume Boeing is desperate to sell these. Or is there something about these planes that makes them unsuitable.

>I assume Boeing is desperate to sell these. Or is there something about these planes that makes them unsuitable. It's not like Boeing has a warehouse of 737-MAX's sitting around. They are ordered and delivered as they are finished.

Boeing has a years long backlog of orders.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein....

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Post by ericbarrett »

DevX101 wrote: post #7

I recently had the frivolous idea of creating a flight search engine for flights that DID NOT use the 737 Max. Any actual interest in this?

I'd use it when the pandemic is over. Zero confidence in Boeing.

In general I think a prosumer-oriented flight search engine would do well. Something like ITA Matrix, before Google absorbed it into Google Flights.

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